ESPN's trade scenarios for every pick

[woahfraze]

I can sort of see where Barnwell is coming from draft-capital wise.  He doesn't value running back highly, so for him to equate McCaffrey to a mid-first round pick makes sense and is actually pretty high praise coming from him.  The problem is you would hope the franchise views McCaffrey like most fans do, which is more valuable than that.  McCaffrey is not just an elite RB.  McCaffrey's versatility and receiving skills make him much more likely to be successful beyond what a typical RBs prime is.  If rushing the ball between the tackles breaks him down some, his route running saavy would probably allow him to extend his career at WR.

With that in mind, I think you have to value him higher than a mid-first round pick.  He was the No. 8 overall pick a few years ago and occasionally RBs go higher than that in the draft.  And his production has been greater than what you could reasonably expect from top-10-drafted RBs.  Is he worth 2 first rounders?  Probably not.  Just because RBs, even ones such as McCaffrey, can only be so valuable.  So if this trade involves a swap of the 2nd and 7th picks, then Carolina better be getting something like a 2nd or a 3rd in return in addition.

Stepping back from the "on paper" value, I don't think it would be wise to trade McCaffrey.  As stated above, I think McCaffrey is the type of player that will not drop off a cliff.  He doesn't have the arthritis concerns like Todd gurley.  He has a versatile skill set.  I think he's worth a second contract.  And I don't think our cap situation--once you get past all the dead money we've accrued this offseason--is dire enough that you can't pay him.  Could the offense be effective without him?  Probably.  But the team needs someone who is the face of the franchise to keep fans excited and proud of while we try to rebuild.  That in itself has some value that can't be quantified in the same way as draft capital.

[theinstrumental]

I worry about how much we've made CMC endure over the last couple of years but unless they're 100% confident in Tua's health that's too much to give up. I'm surprised that Barnwell even mentioned Chase Young here, that's a total non-starter.

[LinvilleGorge]

Hire a new coaching staff with a shining jewel of a guy seen as THE up and coming offensive mind in football and then get rid of Cam and CMC to hand him a steaming bag of dog poo?

That would suck.

[jfra78]

I honestly wouldnt be opposed to trading CMC to move up, but the return isnt quite right imo.  Like the poster above said, getting a 2nd or 3rd would make me think about it harder.

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Hire a new coaching staff with a shining jewel of a guy seen as THE up and coming offensive mind in football and then get rid of Cam and CMC to hand him a steaming bag of dog poo?

That would suck.

That's so Panthers!

[woahfraze]

On a different note, Barnwell also has a scenario where we trade down:

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Trade with Carolina Panthers

Buccaneers get: 1-7

Panthers get: 1-14, 2-45, 2021 fourth-round pick

Again, the Bucs are looking for a right tackle, and moving up to No. 7 should give them their pick of the tackle class. A rebuilding Panthers team should be looking to add extra selections as it pieces together its defense.

I considered throwing in a Curtis Samuel-for-O.J. Howard swap as part of the deal; the Panthers could buy low on Howard as part of their rotation replacing Greg Olsen, while Samuel could step in as the third wideout for Tampa after Carolina signed Robby Anderson. Howard spent last season in Bruce Arians' doghouse, and he would have been a trade candidate under other circumstances, but the upside of giving him a shot with Tom Brady is just too big for the Bucs to move on.

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I wouldn't mind picking up an extra 2nd rounder, but it would depends on how the staff views the players available at 7.  Is the drop-off between an Isaiah Simmons or a Derrick Brown to the fourth best OT (I'm assuming 4 OTs go top 15) or Javon Kinlaw? 

[woahfraze]

Oh, and a third potential trade from Barnwell:

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18. Miami Dolphins (from Pittsburgh Steelers)

Trade with Carolina Panthers

Dolphins get: 1-7, 3-69
Panthers get: 1-18, 2-56, 2021 first-round pick (via HOU)

If the Dolphins draft a quarterback with the No. 5 pick, they're going to want to go after an offensive tackle to protect that passer. They addressed the interior of their line by signing Ereck Flowers and Ted Karras this offseason, but they need to draft at least one tackle with an early pick. The top four tackles could be off the board by the time Miami has its second selection at No. 18; moving up to No. 7 would likely let the team pick its favorite of the bunch. Ironically, the Dolphins would use one of the first-round picks they received from the Texans for Laremy Tunsil as part of the package.

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A bigger drop off from no. 7 than the potential Bucs trade, but here we garner an extra 2nd rounder AND a future 1st round pick.  This one makes more sense to me.  Again, it depends on how enamored you are with our potential picks at no. 7.

[woahfraze]

And finally, Barnwell turns to us a fourth (!!!) time in this article:

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25. Minnesota Vikings

Trade with Carolina Panthers

Vikings get: 2-38, 4-113, WR Curtis Sa
Panthers get: 1-25, 4-132

If the Vikings use the No. 22 pick to add a cornerback, this could be a way for them to add a wide receiver capable of making a more immediate impact than a draft pick. Samuel struggled to stay healthy during his first two seasons in the league and didn't always get to show what he could do with Kyle Allen under center in 2020, but he has flashed potential at times as an explosive receiver who can threaten teams with his versatility and ability with the ball in his hands.

With Robby Anderson moving into the starting lineup, the Panthers could use Samuel as a way to move up and grab someone such as Justin Jefferson, who worked under new offensive coordinator Joe Brady at LSU last season.

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I like Curtis Samuel quite a bit, but his role in our offense is somewhat redundant with McCaffrey.  I wouldn't mind giving him up to move up a full round to the back of the first.  I don't know that I'd use that pick on a WR, as Barnwell suggests though.  I'd rather roll with Moore, Anderson, Seth Roberts, Kieth Kirkwood, and Pharoah Cooper and grab OL, DL, or secondary help.

[onmyown]

CMC has been in the NFL three years.

He is better than Gurley, Elliot and Barkley as a receiver and rusher, player in general. And even trying to compare him to Stew or Dlo is hilarious. 

He was 133 receiving yards away in 2018 from the 1k/1k club, in other words he almost had back to back seasons obtained a record only two players (way further into their career) have done one seasons each in NFL history,  in only 3 seasons.

And this was in Rivera/Norv’s dinosaur offensive mindset, who ran him into the ground. He was exhausted. Imagine using keeping CMC fresh and actually putting thought (creativity) into playing him.

He isn’t just a RB he is an offensive weapon. Elliot, Gurley, Barkley...none of those guys can run routes like CMC and non of those guys have had a season with better reviving yards than CMC.

CMC is better than all of them, but I think we all know why he gets overlooked. He is a playmaker and with the right coaching scheme he is a much better offensive weapon all around than any other top ‘RB’.

Now you try and trade for 5 spots up? Lol

fug no. Anyone who says this makes any sense is dumb AF

[jfra78]

18 minutes ago, woahfraze said:

On a different note, Barnwell also has a scenario where we trade down:

14. Tampa Bay Buccaneers

Trade with Carolina Panthers

Buccaneers get: 1-7

Panthers get: 1-14, 2-45, 2021 fourth-round pick

Again, the Bucs are looking for a right tackle, and moving up to No. 7 should give them their pick of the tackle class. A rebuilding Panthers team should be looking to add extra selections as it pieces together its defense.

I considered throwing in a Curtis Samuel-for-O.J. Howard swap as part of the deal; the Panthers could buy low on Howard as part of their rotation replacing Greg Olsen, while Samuel could step in as the third wideout for Tampa after Carolina signed Robby Anderson. Howard spent last season in Bruce Arians' doghouse, and he would have been a trade candidate under other circumstances, but the upside of giving him a shot with Tom Brady is just too big for the Bucs to move on.

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I wouldn't mind picking up an extra 2nd rounder, but it would depends on how the staff views the players available at 7.  Is the drop-off between an Isaiah Simmons or a Derrick Brown to the fourth best OT (I'm assuming 4 OTs go top 15) or Javon Kinlaw? 

Curtis Samuel for OJ howard would seal this deal for me

[mrcompletely11]

19 minutes ago, woahfraze said:

And finally, Barnwell turns to us a fourth (!!!) time in this article:

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25. Minnesota Vikings

Trade with Carolina Panthers

Vikings get: 2-38, 4-113, WR Curtis Sa
Panthers get: 1-25, 4-132

If the Vikings use the No. 22 pick to add a cornerback, this could be a way for them to add a wide receiver capable of making a more immediate impact than a draft pick. Samuel struggled to stay healthy during his first two seasons in the league and didn't always get to show what he could do with Kyle Allen under center in 2020, but he has flashed potential at times as an explosive receiver who can threaten teams with his versatility and ability with the ball in his hands.

With Robby Anderson moving into the starting lineup, the Panthers could use Samuel as a way to move up and grab someone such as Justin Jefferson, who worked under new offensive coordinator Joe Brady at LSU last season.

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I like Curtis Samuel quite a bit, but his role in our offense is somewhat redundant with McCaffrey.  I wouldn't mind giving him up to move up a full round to the back of the first.  I don't know that I'd use that pick on a WR, as Barnwell suggests though.  I'd rather roll with Moore, Anderson, Seth Roberts, Kieth Kirkwood, and Pharoah Cooper and grab OL, DL, or secondary help.

I would definitely do that 

[Chief Keek]

Somebody over there must be smoking some good stuff to come up with that scenario.

[Byrdman4real]

Thats a stupid trade

[MHS831]

Pisses me off that he compares CMC to Gurley---Gurley has an arthritic condition--stupid logic.