The Javon Kinlaw Discussion

[kungfoodude]

1 minute ago, MHS831 said:

Interesting statement---well said and it makes perfect sense for me. 

In some ways they are much different kinds of DT's. Kinlaw is more of a pass rushing specialist and Brown is more of a  bull that can impact the run and push QB's in the pocket. Kinlaw is an athlete and Brown is a freakishly strong guy.

[MHS831]

Georgia doubled him a lot--and their OL is very good.

[sml1950]

The kid is from a hard scrabble childhood including homelessness and unsettled family life.  One background write up told the story of going to a JUCO in Mississippi where he went hungry the first few days because he had no money for meals.  The coach finally told him that the cafeteria was free for athletes.... and he proceeded to gain 40 lbs the 1st semester.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, sml1950 said:

The kid is from a hard scrabble childhood including homelessness and unsettled family life.  One background write up told the story of going to a JUCO in Mississippi where he went hungry the first few days because he had no money for meals.  The coach finally told him that the cafeteria was free for athletes.... and he proceeded to gain 40 lbs the 1st semester.

I always root like hell for these types of guys.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Shocker said:

Space eater or pass rush?  I agree its a decent question.  Brown is not the Bear you think all the time...he was also surrounded by talent on defense.

You're right but let me show you something..

How many times did they single block him??

With all that talent around him they made sure most of the time he had 2 to 3 guys dedicated to him.. 

What happened most times they gave him a 1 on 1?? Lol

Kinlaw doesn't line up all over the Dline.. Brown does..

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, sml1950 said:

The kid is from a hard scrabble childhood including homelessness and unsettled family life.  One background write up told the story of going to a JUCO in Mississippi where he went hungry the first few days because he had no money for meals.  The coach finally told him that the cafeteria was free for athletes.... and he proceeded to gain 40 lbs the 1st semester.

Those guys from the bottom tend to be pretty motivated. 

[SCMunnerlyn1]

He will get knocks for his 2nd half performances. I won't knock him for that considering the poo show on offense he had to watch game after game. I wouldnt care after half time either.

[pantherclaw]

I like.

[45catfan]

I wouldn't be opposed, but a lot of dominoes have to fall before he would be my pick...and not at #7.  In a trade scenario several spots down and Wills gone too, then yes.

[MMA]

I like Kinlaw more than Brown. The kid didn’t even have to play in the Senior Bowl after showing he was a stud in a couple of practices. I rather trade back and take Kinlaw than taking Brown at 7.

[JawnyBlaze]

Yea Kinlaw is definitely a better pass rusher and still good in the run game, Brown is definitely better in the run game and still good as rushing the passer. I’d be happy with either, but if it were up to me I’m swinging for the fences with Kinlaw. His upside is Aaron Donald. 

[Peon Awesome]

If we fall in love with Kinlaw, fine we better try like hell to trade down to 12 or 13. Interestingly the teams at 12 and 13 both have 2 first round picks. Would San Fran give up 13 and 31 for 7? Maybe; I suspect that's not too outlandish of a deal based on the trade chart. You have a great chance to still get Kinlaw and grab an extra first rounder in the process. Even if you have to get a worse deal, you have to be aggressive and do it if you're adamant on taking Kinlaw. San Fran says they want a 3rd back? Sucks but you'd rather have pick 31 than our 3rd rounder and if we'd be picking the same player at 13 that we want at 7, it's like getting to move up from 69 to 31 for free.

[WOW!!]

30 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Yea Kinlaw is definitely a better pass rusher and still good in the run game, Brown is definitely better in the run game and still good as rushing the passer. I’d be happy with either, but if it were up to me I’m swinging for the fences with Kinlaw. His upside is Aaron Donald. 

What exactly is telling you this??

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/javon-kinlaw-1.html

 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derrick-brown-6.html

The numbers aren't saying this..

[tiger7_88]

4 hours ago, Shocker said:

Space eater or pass rush?  I agree its a decent question.  Brown is not the Bear you think all the time...he was also surrounded by talent on defense.

Brown was the key player that made the rest of that defense “talented”.