Quinnen Williams or Derrick Brown??

[LinvilleGorge]

If they're lining up for a foot race, I'd pick Williams. If they're lining up to play DT in football, I'd pick Brown.

[Cpt slay a ho]

Williams, man amongst boys Not to say brown isn’t just my personal preference 

[The Lobo]

Williams sneezed, blessed himself and thanked himself on national television. Williams all day. 

[Eazy-E]

One was dumb enough to try and carry a gun on a plane so i'll take the latter.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

Wrong again Magnifico..

Brown has been producing 3 years straight 

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/derrick-brown-6.html

Williams was a 1 year starter..

https://www.sports-reference.com/cfb/players/quinnen-williams-1.html

What are you arguing??

How are you not understanding Where i said "caliber of athlete" not about production. Just physical ability. Williams can do things brown can't do, and while brown is probably more powerful the gap there is smaller than Williams burst and get to the qb ability. I dont know where you think im wrong"again"

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Comparing relative draft position in two different drafts is foolish.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-evaluators-share-thoughts-on-auburn-draft-prospects/ar-BB128r4d

While he probably won’t go as early in the draft, multiple NFL scouts told AL.com that they think Brown is an even better player than Quinnen Williams was coming out of Alabama last year.

Williams was the No. 3 overall pick in last year’s draft.

“If you want to make comparisons, most people think he’s better than Quinnen because he’s a bigger, more powerful man,” one NFL evaluator said. “And he’s got another year of seasoning under his belt coming into the NFL versus Quinnen who was very young. So I think people believe he’s a little bit more of a sure bet than Quinnen was last year. There aren’t a lot of flaws with him.”

 

It's a hard comparison because they both do two different things as their main draw. You could argue they play different interior positions, But based on their athlete profile and ability, Williams is better. If you wanna say oh he was a starter such and such then thats fair, But Williams did come from Alabama playing behind insert stud tackle before him and basically was a one and done. Every prospect is a gamble and if they both in the same class and have a similar grade you take the better athlete gamble on upside.

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Comparing relative draft position in two different drafts is foolish.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl/nfl-evaluators-share-thoughts-on-auburn-draft-prospects/ar-BB128r4d

While he probably won’t go as early in the draft, multiple NFL scouts told AL.com that they think Brown is an even better player than Quinnen Williams was coming out of Alabama last year.

Williams was the No. 3 overall pick in last year’s draft.

“If you want to make comparisons, most people think he’s better than Quinnen because he’s a bigger, more powerful man,” one NFL evaluator said. “And he’s got another year of seasoning under his belt coming into the NFL versus Quinnen who was very young. So I think people believe he’s a little bit more of a sure bet than Quinnen was last year. There aren’t a lot of flaws with him.”

 

also ESPN scouts inc has Williams edging out Brown in their grade 

Derrick Brown

DT

6'4⅝"

326

Auburn

94

4

 

Quinnen Williams*

DT

6'3"

303

Alabama

95

NY Jets

3(3)

2

 

http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/rankings?year=2020

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020positionreviewDT.php

Merging the 2020 and 2019 prospects
Quinnen Williams
Derrick Brown
Ed Oliver
Christian Wilkins
Javon Kinlaw
Dexter Lawrence
Jeffery Simmons
Jerry Tillery
Justin Madubuike
Ross Blacklock
Raekwon Davis
Jordan Elliott
Trysten Hill
Neville Gallimore
Dre'Mont Jones
Larrell Murchison

Walterfootball does a piece every year where he merges the past 2 draft classes and compares each position on how they would rank if in the same class and what do you know he also has Williams above Brown. Notice the theme? 

[JARROD]

One could also argue that being a 3 year starter instead of a one year that Brown won’t last as long as Williams.

DT at their best have a serious shelf life much like Running Back,.. so a 1 year starter has much less mileage than a 3 year.

[LinvilleGorge]

14 hours ago, micnificent28 said:

also ESPN scouts inc has Williams edging out Brown in their grade 

Derrick Brown

DT

6'4⅝"

326

Auburn

94

4

 

Quinnen Williams*

DT

6'3"

303

Alabama

95

NY Jets

3(3)

2

 

http://insider.espn.com/nfl/draft/rankings?year=2020

https://walterfootball.com/draft2020positionreviewDT.php

Merging the 2020 and 2019 prospects
Quinnen Williams
Derrick Brown
Ed Oliver
Christian Wilkins
Javon Kinlaw
Dexter Lawrence
Jeffery Simmons
Jerry Tillery
Justin Madubuike
Ross Blacklock
Raekwon Davis
Jordan Elliott
Trysten Hill
Neville Gallimore
Dre'Mont Jones
Larrell Murchison

Walterfootball does a piece every year where he merges the past 2 draft classes and compares each position on how they would rank if in the same class and what do you know he also has Williams above Brown. Notice the theme? 

Walterfootball... LOL!

 

[micnificent28]

2 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Walterfootball... LOL!

 

The point was multiple sources think Williams is a superior product to Brown.. I mean didnt you qoute al or msn whoever does that do they even know football?  Anyone that is a hardcore draftnik knows the score here. Brown is a Great player... he just isn't an "elite" rare talent. Limited by his athletic ability and your mad.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, micnificent28 said:

The point was multiple sources think Williams is a superior product to Brown.. I mean didnt you qoute al or msn whoever does that do they even know football?  Anyone that is a hardcore draftnik knows the score here. Brown is a Great player... he just isn't an "elite" rare talent. Limited by his athletic ability and your mad.

al.com was quoting an NFL scout who was quoting multiple other NFL scouts. walter football is ran by a guy who interned as a high school sports reporter, thus ends his actual sports experience outside of his website. 

[micnificent28]

Just now, LinvilleGorge said:

al.com was quoting an NFL scout who was quoting multiple other NFL scouts. walter football is ran by a guy who interned as a high school sports reporter, thus ends his actual sports experience outside of his website. 

So random unnamed scout trumps walter here...got ya....Walterfootball is a big douche.. but actually his track record on prospects is pretty good think i'm gonna do a writeup about it.

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

So random unnamed scout trumps walter here...got ya....Walterfootball is a big douche.. but actually his track record on prospects is pretty good think i'm gonna do a writeup about it.

No it is not... Walterfootball constantly get player ranking and round projections wrong... They literally have no connection to actual team scouts...

YOU might as well be writing for Walterfootball...

[LinvilleGorge]

2 minutes ago, micnificent28 said:

think i'm gonna do a writeup about it.

you're probably at least as qualified as walter football to do it