If we don’t trade down...Brown will be our pick.

[WarPanthers89]

I see three possibilities based off how the draft falls: Okudah, Simmons, or Brown. I believe that the pick will be Brown even if all three were to be available for us to select at 7. I think Rhule and Snow will fall in love with Brown and see him as a building block for our defense. He fills a huge need, has a motor that does not stop, and has all pro potential. kK and Brown will be two solid pieces at DT and Brown is someone who can immediately help our historically bad line play against the run from last season (arguably the biggest opportunity on our team other than QB turnovers). Below are some snips of an article on Brown for you to enjoy. Click the link for full article and play clips. What are your thoughts??

Why Derrick Brown would be worth a top-5 pick in *any* NFL Draft

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.sbnation.com/platform/amp/nfl/2020/3/3/21158412/derrick-brown-nfl-draft-2020-dt-film-breakdown-highlights-auburn

I’ve seen ridiculously strong defensive tackles and I’ve seen ridiculously athletic defensive tackles. But it is rare to see both in one guy, especially one Derrick Brown’s size, at a shade under 6’5 and 326 pounds.

Y’all already know I’m a sucker for a dude who goes hard all the time anyway, but Brown is a hustler’s hustler. He doesn’t run hard to the ball “for a big guy.” He runs hard to the ball, period!

Wherever he is going on the field, he’s always trying to get there in a hurry. It’s a damn near inspiration to an old-school defensive lineman like myself. Brown busts his ass play in and play out, and out of all the impressive things I saw from him on tape, that was what jumped off the screen the most.

He plays the game with the kind of effort that is sure to be contagious in the NFL. You won’t want to be the one getting called out for getting smoked by the big fella. Then again, with as fast as I saw Brown run a few times, maybe they wouldn’t have anything to be embarrassed about.

Even when it doesn’t look like he will have a chance to get in on a tackle, Brown still turns and runs to the ball. He is truly relentless and that’s reflected in his on-field production. There’s a reason why I credited him with 28 tackles, including three tackles for a loss, in the four games of his I watched. You don’t make that many plays by just standing around and waiting for the ball to come to you. You make that many plays by going out and making poo happen.

What Brown does well: He’s got power

Brown’s physical gifts are not limited to his uncommon speed for a man his size. His excellent technique also helped Brown get in position to make a lot of plays at Auburn.

Did I mention that he’s also as strong as a damn ox and can ragdoll men much bigger than him? Because honestly? The way Brown was tossing 300-pound guys around like they were a mere nuisance was probably what had me cussing the most when watching his film. And believe me, my swear jar is overflowing at this point.

And I want to remind everybody that these weren’t Arkansas School Of Underwater Basketweaving offensive linemen he was dominating like that. Brown was able to overpower a bunch of Power 5 offensive linemen like it was nothing.

Of the four teams, I’d say Alabama’s offensive line probably gave him the biggest challenge when it came to physicality. He did get pushed around a few times, but by the end of the game, he had put his stamp on it. He even ended Alabama’s last-gasp attempt at a comeback by knocking a pass down at the line of scrimmage after once again winning a one-on-one matchup.

To top it off, he plays with a pretty salty attitude.

Nothing dirty, but I did see Brown giving a few offensive linemen the business right up to the whistle several times, even when he might’ve been better off trying to get to the ball. In that Oregon game to start off the season, he played like some of the offensive linemen owed him money.

What Brown does well: Defend the run

In general as a run defender, Brown is so big and strong that it almost didn’t matter who he was going against. Brown usually rendered blockers irrelevant by jacking them up and then locating the football while keeping the would-be blocker at arm’s length. Then once he found the ball, Brown would simply discard the blocker quickly and, usually, violently.

When Brown was singled up, the only question was whether the ball carrier would run on a path close enough for Brown to tackle him at or behind the line of scrimmage, or if Brown would have to run to get to him.

Hell, that even applied when he was fighting double-teams sometimes.

Brown would be chilling with a blocker hanging off of him, just waiting for the right time to pounce on the ball carrier. And once you see it, you can’t un-see it. It was just really shocking to see a college player who was that much better than the dudes he was facing.

Speaking of double-teams, they didn’t much slow Brown down, either. He would focus on one of the two blockers, shoot his hands into their chest, and really hunker down with his shoulders turned to prevent the second blocker from having much of a surface to hit. Then, whenever the second blocker came off, say, to try to block a linebacker, Brown would spring into action.

Of course, sometimes he said to hell with it and just blew up everything in the backfield.

You look at all of the athletic traits that Brown displayed on tape, add in his power, versatility, and football IQ to go along with his motor? It doesn’t get much better than him as a defensive line prospect. It really doesn’t.

 

What he does well: Pass rush (and he’s got some moves!)

Here’s the rub: he might be an even better pass rusher than he is a run defender.

In fact, I don’t think I’ve been this excited about an interior pass rush prospect not named Aaron Donald. And I say “interior” pass rusher, but I also saw Brown win one-on-one matchups on offensive tackles as well.

No cap.

That big joker got busy no matter where Auburn lined him up on passing downs. The main attraction in his pass-rushing arsenal was a heavy helping of power rushes. He was also damn good at them. In particular, he showed the ability to consistently get push on either guard upfield; then, at about the level of the quarterback, he would rip right through their outside shoulder like a hot knife through butter.

Brown also has some nice inside counter moves off those power rushes to keep opposing offensive linemen honest. The fastest route to the quarterback is always going to be a straight line, and Brown is well equipped to be a pocket collapser in the league from day one.

It would be mistake to assume he is just a bull rush guy, however.

A huge mistake.

While Brown will make most of his hay with his power, his finesse moves were just about equally impressive. One thing I love about Brown as a pass rusher is that he has good hip turn as he runs, no matter what kind of move he is going for. That helps him to turn a tight corner when he tries an outside rush, and it helps him fight force with force when he is trying to work through the blocker.

It isn’t normal to see a guy Brown’s size as a pass rusher, but he looked like very polished in the games that I watched.

And let me say this is where statistics can be very misleading if you don’t watch the tape. Brown “only” had one sack in those four games, but for one reason or another, he still wasn’t credited with a sack or a pressure on certain plays. On one, he used one of the best inside spin moves I’ve ever seen any interior defensive lineman execute since I’ve been doing these breakdowns.

 

 

[Mvp2014]

Please let this happen.  id take brown over okudah and simmons with where our d line is

[trucpfan]

That was good a little long but good, I appreciate the effort. The most intriguing part in adding him is pairing him with a healthy I’d assume motivated KK under a new regime. That could really do damage up the middle where it’s most important spot we would like to get to especially gs Brees/Tom/Matt trio hate the middle pressure most they all step up very well. Also throw in a healthy bigger stronger Burns we could actually be able to attack QB’s more then we believe which could lead to a mediocre defense. Teamed with a strong offense and we might not be bottom feeders as much as we expect but we’ll see how the draft plays out.

[WarPanthers89]

6 minutes ago, Mvp2014 said:

Please let this happen.  id take brown over okudah and simmons with where our d line is

I would love Okudah but I really think Brown will have a much bigger impact on our team this year and will have a better NFL career. I would be extremely happy with any of the three but Brown is such an old school high motor freak that would be a huge piece to fix our issues against the run. We can sign Cockrell, and draft a CB in round 2 to help fix our issues in the secondary. 

[ncfan]

Agree

What was our Biggest weakness on this trash D last year?

Run D

 

What was one reason that was pointed out why Luke Struggled last year?

Blockers getting right to him blowing through the DL.

 

This team hasnt been the same since the Star loss.   Brown is the Physical Man Child that we havnt seen since Suh coming out.

 

Get Simmons.  What good is he going to do with blockers all over him?  Let me ask you this.  Does a Fast Ferrari do better hitting a Brick wall than a Toyota Camri?

 

Get Okudah, shut down that 1 WR.  But watch teams run for 250+ all over us.

 

Brown helps in ever aspect on this D from stopping the Run, to Pass D (see how much Star free'd up KK and the rest of the DL)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[WarPanthers89]

4 minutes ago, ncfan said:

Agree

What was our Biggest weakness on this trash D last year?

Run D

 

What was one reason that was pointed out why Luke Struggled last year?

Blockers getting right to him blowing through the DL.

 

This team hasnt been the same since the Star loss.   Brown is the Physical Man Child that we havnt seen since Suh coming out.

 

Get Simmons.  What good is he going to do with blockers all over him?

 

Get Okudah, shut down that 1 WR.  But watch teams run for 250+ all over us.

 

Brown helps in ever aspect on this D from stopping the Run, to Pass D (see how much Star free'd up KK and the rest of the DL)

 

 

 

 

 

 

[kungfoodude]

INB4 "DO NOT WANT. HE WAS TERRIBLE AT THE COMBINE."

[hepcat]

Do want. You build a defense from the inside out. Kawaan Short is 31 and just missed an entire season. They didn’t retain Vernon Butler, who improved last season. Who else do they have on the inside? 

Based on the Panthers letting Bradberry walk and not re-signing Cockrell (yet...), Okudah might also be the pick. But if Brown is there, he HAS to be the pick.

Shaq Thompson is too similar to Simmons to pick him. If Ron was still here I could see it. Too many other holes to pick a guy that doesn’t really have a set position on an already gutted defense

[Moo Daeng]

There are a lot of players I would be happy with. 

[Khyber53]

He will be the pick (unless Rivera takes him first) and he'll be a star here. 

A Defensive Tackle is involved directly in every play of the game. It's just the most bang for the buck and a guy like Brown is so head and shoulders above everyone else, it's a no-brainer. He's also the kind of guy you pick for your team just so you don't have him going after your QB and RBs. Think about that... we do NOT want TB, ATL or NO grabbing this guy.

Grab him and use him as the foundation of the new defense. He's a guy that will make it easier on other defensive players and give some of them a chance to shine. Just remember that last year, our terrible interior defensive line play screwed the entire team so badly that Luke frikkin' Kuechly looked bad, got hurt and then retired because of it.

 

[Harbingers]

You mean Herbert. @WarPanthers89

[Daddy_Uncle]

He's great but I'm not gonna act like he is the only option. There are quite a few guys that I'd be thrilled about adding. 

[WarPanthers89]

6 minutes ago, Daddy_Uncle said:

He's great but I'm not gonna act like he is the only option. There are quite a few guys that I'd be thrilled about adding. 

I agree...I would love Okudah, Simmons, one of the many tackles...Hell I wouldn’t be upset if one of the top QBs fall to us and we select them to start in a year or two...but Brown makes too much sense and is such a talent I see no way we pass on him if he’s available at 7 which looks like it very well could be the case

[WarPanthers89]

7 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

You mean Herbert. @WarPanthers89

I wouldn’t be mad at it if he sits for a year or two. I just see no way we pass on Brown if he’s available at 7