Ron is wanting a trade down for the next Kuechly

[Smithers]

9 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Ron with roster controll is at least something to entertain us all. They should just go a head and trade all the picks after the 2and round away because those guys will probinly never see the field on their rookie deals out side of special teams and IRed injury replacements.

Right.  This is the same guy who thought Colin Jones deserved reps.

[Waldo]

4 minutes ago, Smithers said:

Right.  This is the same guy who thought Colin Jones deserved reps.

He makes bad roster decisions without a doubt. His loyalty to friends and followers trumps better options. Having to hope for an injury to be able to see the better player on the field is beyond messed up.

He was most successful when he was tied to a GM that made him do different things than he wanted and went against his values. Now he is full throttle unbridled? Holy crap what a show it will be.

[raleigh-panther]

On 3/30/2020 at 5:52 PM, Mage said:

Kuechly was a defensive rookie of the year, defensive player of the year, played in a Super Bowl, led many great defenses, and will almost certainly be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

I know it's cool to hate on Rivera nowadays but claiming he wasted Kuechly is a stupid statement.

No, it isn’t 

Rivera had an all star team in 2016 Super Bowl, Of which Luke and Newton were a part, what did he do with it? 

[Mr Mojo Risin]

On 3/30/2020 at 8:55 PM, ladypanther said:

This team has never put 2 winning seasons together back to back.  Luke was amazing....but a winning team was never established while he was a Panther.  That saddens me.  Luke deserved better and so did I as a fan.  

It makes me cringe hearing people say this. "Technically" we didnt have a winning record but we made the playoffs and won the division 3 years in a row. The first NFC South team to do it. That is impressive in and of itself and people like you take away from that impressive feat because it wasn't as perfect as you would have liked it to be

[Mage]

11 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

No, it isn’t 

Rivera had an all star team in 2016 Super Bowl, Of which Luke and Newton were a part, what did he do with it? 

So any player who didn't win a Super Bowl had their career wasted?

Dumb logic.  

[Kuhndog94]

On 3/30/2020 at 8:52 PM, Mage said:

Kuechly was a defensive rookie of the year, defensive player of the year, played in a Super Bowl, led many great defenses, and will almost certainly be inducted into the Hall of Fame.

I know it's cool to hate on Rivera nowadays but claiming he wasted Kuechly is a stupid statement.

Those are individual awards Kuechly received all while running this defense. 

Ron just happened to be the coach at the time. The fact Kuechly did all of that without the amount of incompetence on our coaching staff is what makes him the GOAT. That generational talent.

 

 

[Waldo]

Did anyone see the defense Ron put together last year? He literally implemented a scheme that completely nullified Luke. 3 winning seasons with Luke on the roster. Allowing Washington to become the D coordinator and staying even after having playcalling taken away.

Sure looks like a lot of waste. As far as Cam, allowing Shula to stay is all you need to prove that Ron wasted both talents on his mediocre coaching run here.

[raleigh-panther]

12 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

It makes me cringe hearing people say this. "Technically" we didnt have a winning record but we made the playoffs and won the division 3 years in a row. The first NFC South team to do it. That is impressive in and of itself and people like you take away from that impressive feat because it wasn't as perfect as you would have liked it to be

So, who died and made you the ‘king of everything’.?
attacking people like lady panther  doesn’t make  your opinion  better than anyone else’s 

imho, Ron Rivera was anything but impressive.

quoting bill Parcells, who I would suspect knows a bit about football, ‘you are what your record says you are’. Under that premise, based on facts of won loss, Rivera is average at best over his career.  
Impressive is the Patriots, not the Panthers.   Six rings to zero

[Mr Mojo Risin]

12 hours ago, raleigh-panther said:

So, who died and made you the ‘king of everything’.?
attacking people like lady panther  doesn’t make  your opinion  better than anyone else’s 

imho, Ron Rivera was anything but impressive.

quoting bill Parcells, who I would suspect knows a bit about football, ‘you are what your record says you are’. Under that premise, based on facts of won loss, Rivera is average at best over his career.  
Impressive is the Patriots, not the Panthers.   Six rings to zero

Because it's the truth? Opinion? What??????? When Cam played at least 14 games we made the playoffs 50% of the time. (4/8 seasons) That's the same rate as Brees (7/14) and Ryan (6/12). You people exaggerate and try to cherry pick stats to prove a narrative that isnt true. Ron did not waste Keuchlys career. Would it have been nice to win a SB? Absolutely but we didn't and that does not mean Rivera was not a successful coach when he was here because he was. 

And I hate to break it to you man but the New England Patriots are the EXCEPTION. Not the NORM. Dan Marino must be a worse Qb than Nick Foles with that logic right? 

The NFC South was the most competitive division in football never having a repeat winner for over 10 years. Rivera and the Panthers were the first to do it, 3 times in a row. Not Sean Payton/Drew Brees. Not Matt Ryan and the Falcons. But Ron freaking Rivera. He wasn't perfect but these last 10 years could have been A LOT worse.

I'd wager Rivera will end up being a more successful coach than Rhule will end up being here when all is said and done

[Montsta]

On 3/30/2020 at 3:20 PM, MMA said:

The next top once in a generation LB. Ron knows what it takes to win. He’s not as stupid as Panthers fans think he is. He’ll hand #59 to Simmons and watch him thrive for the next how many years.

Ron knows how to win like three times in 8-9 years. 

[RASTAN66]

5 hours ago, Mr Mojo Risin said:

I'd wager Rivera will end up being a more successful coach than Rhule will end up being here when all is said and done

Taking the other side of that trade.

[MMA]

37 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Ron knows how to win like three times in 8-9 years. 

Still the best HC we ever had. Rhule has some big shoes to fill. Whether you like it or not, Ron is a good HC. 

[DaveThePanther2008]

I'm between him and Brown at #7. We'd get two for one with Brown.  Brown's presence on the line will help KK get back to pro bowl form.

Simmons has such great versatility it makes it hard to pass on him.  He has all the physical tools to be great but before we crown him Luke 2.0 I want to see if he can diagnose plays like Luke did.  A good part of Luke's greatness was he knew where the ball was going most of the time.