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REPORT: Panthers are NOT shopping Curtis Samuel

TheSpecialJuan

By TheSpecialJuan,
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3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

The average completion rate is 15%~ higher than Samuel. 

  That’s not in question. And brings in many other factors. Mainly QB play. You questioned drops. Then made up your own definitions for them. And now you keep throwing any number you can that tells nothing specific about a WRs drops. 
 

   Where are these 30+ drops. We can go to GamePass and you can show them to me. Let’s go to the tape. 

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4 minutes ago, Toomers said:

  That’s not in question. And brings in many other factors. Mainly QB play. You questioned drops. Then made up your own definitions for them. And now you keep throwing any number you can that tells nothing specific about a WRs drops. 
 

   Where are these 30+ drops. We can go to GamePass and you can show them to me. Let’s go to the tape. 

You do it. I don’t have the mental fortitude to watch last season again yet. Show me where it didn’t. 

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30 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

I consider “drops” to be be contested throws that should have been caught. The fact remains he caught only 51.4% of the passes that went his way. For example that’s 10% less than Moore. Who also had a dip last year.

No one cares what you consider drops to be. Stop making up figures to support your baseless claims. No one is buying it. Kind of like your documentary. 

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This has to be the dumbest non-story posted recently.  Of course they wouldn't shop Samuel.  Really young, promising, hasn't hit his ceiling yet and still on a cheap rookie deal.  With the loaded WR class, why would someone trade with a guy that will need a new deal coming up over a rookie that they won't have to worry about for another 4-5 years?

New Headline- Breaking News: Panthers Won't Change Team Mascot or Colors!

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22 hours ago, t96 said:

I think we probably aren’t shopping him too hard but whenever a team is shopping someone they’re going to say they’re not. I’d trade him for a 2nd but doubt a team would bite on that. I wouldn’t give up on his potential for less than that.

Yep agreed. I don’t know why everyone feels they deserve to know what the FO is or isn’t doing. These are professionals and this is a business. They may not want to but if someone gives them what they want, why not? Again these are sport professionals, they signed a contracts allowing their employer to do exactly that.

I know it’s hard to get over the family atmosphere the last FO try to engrain into the business on their path to mediocrity, but it’s ok to aim higher.

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3 hours ago, Toomers said:

Not that many. It’s all throws to him. 
 

 He dropped 6 of 105.  

sources disagree on the exact number - many I've seen put it at 7.  For comparison, Ted Ginn also had 7 drops last season.

Samuel was also ranked 33rd out of 155 in highest drop percentage (lower ranking = more drops).  That's.... not good.

We'll see how he does with a different QB.

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9 minutes ago, mav1234 said:

sources disagree on the exact number - many I've seen put it at 7.  For comparison, Ted Ginn also had 7 drops last season.

Samuel was also ranked 33rd out of 155 in highest drop percentage (lower ranking = more drops).  That's.... not good.

We'll see how he does with a different QB.

  A drop or 2 difference is normal between graders. That’s normal. But each one is looking at every WR thru the same eyes and criteria. Any other metrics involves other players performance that affects the WR.

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11 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

What could we realistically get for him given this incoming WR draft class? I'd much rather hang onto him and see what Rhule and Brady can do with him.

  About the only choice is keep him. No team will give you more than a 4th. He’s better than that. 

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