Debunking TB's largest knock

[t96]

52 minutes ago, Moo Daeng said:

Do you watch the games? No reason to exaggerate.

 

He was bad but he had 11.

https://theriotreport.com/kyle-allen-deep-ball-panthers-2019/

So worst in the league. I wasn’t that far off

[*FreeFua*]

1 hour ago, Moo Daeng said:

Do you watch the games? No reason to exaggerate.

 

He was bad but he had 11.

https://theriotreport.com/kyle-allen-deep-ball-panthers-2019/

Oooo got em!

Way to prove your point!

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, Navy_football said:

Hey bro! Why the diss?!!

Not intended, just reality.

Really hoping that QB from my HS Alma mater lights it up for you guys.

[run-run-pass-punt]

34 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's also worth noting that he's only 2-17 against collegiate top 25 teams. Those two wins? They were against 20+ ranked Navy and ECU, not exactly traditional powerhouses.

I hope I'm wrong, but i think we've probably been hoodwinked.

He coached Temple and Baylor! (The latter of which was a train wreck after a scandal when he took over.)

To turn those two situations into winners so quickly is incredible. He didn't have the stars of the big schools. To dismiss him because of his record against programs that were playing on an uneven field misses the impact he made.

He may or may not pan out in the NFL, but his resume has earned him a shot imho, and without the slightest hesitation.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, run-run-pass-punt said:

He coached Temple and Baylor! (The latter of which was a train wreck after a scandal when he took over.)

To turn those two situations into winners so quickly is incredible. He didn't have the stars of the big schools. To dismiss him because of his record against programs that were playing on an uneven field misses the impact he made.

He may or may not pan out in the NFL, but his resume has earned him a shot imho, and without the slightest hesitation.

Nice selective quoting completely ignoring that I did in fact give him credit for turning those programs around.

[run-run-pass-punt]

8 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Nice selective quoting completely ignoring that I did in fact give him credit for turning those programs around.

You said, "I think we've probably been hoodwinked."

I assumed that was the essence and summary of your post since you concluded with it.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, run-run-pass-punt said:

You said, "I think we've probably been hoodwinked."

I assumed that was the essence and summary of your post since you concluded with it.

It was, but I still credited him with turning those programs around. At the end of the day though, it's just a cold hard fact that he didn't win games against good football teams in college.

[Pantherzack179812]

13 hours ago, Toomers said:

   You aren’t going to prove anything with a highlight video. Where are the incompletions? 
 

   You could make an impressive video package for Kyle Allen as well if you took just good plays from his first 5 games with a worse OL and system. 
 

   Everything matters. 

I did prove what I said. "Teddy can't go deep." I provided 6 passes that show otherwise. 

A QB who practices with the 1s for the whole off-season probably throws more then that. 

[RASTAN66]

Big Time Teddy is a stone cold killer.

This is going to be awesome!

[onmyown]

Man these cam nuthuggers can find any reason to negative about a qb ‘everything matters’ lol give me a break where I as this mantra when cam was here, he’s got plenty

[Pantherzack179812]

20 minutes ago, onmyown said:

Man these cam nuthuggers can find any reason to negative about a qb ‘everything matters’ lol give me a break where I as this mantra when cam was here, he’s got plenty

I can't believe we're bringing up deep bombs. KA is the first qb who threw one in Charlotte since 2016, sorry to say it's true. TB throws 6 completed deep bombs in 5 games, he doesn't' ever go deep. Highlight packages also don't include incomplete attempts. You don't throw deep when you're massacring defenses short.

[Navy_football]

17 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Not intended, just reality.

Really hoping that QB from my HS Alma mater lights it up for you guys.

Though not a traditional power house team, Navy regularly leads the nation in rushing - almost always in the top 5. If your defense isn't disciplined, you're in for a long game. 

Kind of what this defense was missing last season - discipline against the run. 

[steven8989]

21 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Allen had 35 20+ yard completions last season. In Teddy's best years, he had 38 and 41. Allen had 5 40+ yard completions last year. In Bridgewater's beat seasons he had 6 and 7.

Now obviously those stats aren't perfect because they don't show how many of those were largely due to YAC, but they're a decent indication.

I've said all along that with Bridgewater we're basically getting Kyle Allen with a lot less turnovers.  Anyone expecting to see Bridgewater let it rip 20+ yards down the field with any regularity is simply setting themselves up for disappointment.

You don't have to throw it 20+ much to win games ask Tom Brady, 6 time SB champ. Y'all going be like man I wish we had someone like Teddy way before now.

[*FreeFua*]

8 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

I did prove what I said. "Teddy can't go deep." I provided 6 passes that show otherwise. 

A QB who practices with the 1s for the whole off-season probably throws more then that. 

 

6 hours ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

I can't believe we're bringing up deep bombs. KA is the first qb who threw one in Charlotte since 2016, sorry to say it's true. TB throws 6 completed deep bombs in 5 games, he doesn't' ever go deep. Highlight packages also don't include incomplete attempts. You don't throw deep when you're massacring defenses short.

lol