Cam Newton: "They gave up on me"

[Vagrant]

this man took over 1,300 hits during his time here and got up from all of them. he was our emotional leader. he was our franchise quarterback. i will love him forever for what he did for us. there's no qualifiers. if he needs to feel this way to get back to being the best version of himself, i want that for him. i don't give love then take it back. this is my dude and i'll ride with him for every game as long as he doesn't play against us. he gave us so many memories. so many moments. not all good, but some larger than life. respect the man and how he has to handle this process. he didn't want it. it was put on him.

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Racism, be it blatant, be it subtle, is an issue that concerns me, yes.

 Nice to see you finally admit it doesn’t concern you.  Confession is good for the soul and the first step toward recovery.

It does concern  me because I don't engage in it and when I see it or hear it I make my feelings known that I don't like it or approve of it. On the other hand I don't go looking for it or color my interactions with a belief that everyone who isn't black is inherently racist. And if they aren't saying anything racist it just means they are being subtle. You find what you look for.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

I'm still not 100% convinced this was about health alone. Was it a contributing factor? Of course. Was it the biggest variable? I really doubt it. $20M to allow your proven franchise QB an opportunity to get healthy is nothing. The draft picks garnered from a healthy Newton would be worth a lot more than $20M. But, let's just act like this was a business as usual decision. They don't like something about Cam and wanted to move on. Period. 

I agree. I think they thought Cam wasn't a good fit for their offense. They didn't need a great runner, they needed a great passer. If this is going to look like New Orleans, how many times does Brees run? Exactly.  They needed someone who could get the ball out fast, could move around but stay in the pocket and was good against the blitz given that with 4 and 5 receiver sets, there are often guys blitzing who aren't accounted for. You have to make the right reads, know your audibles, see your hot reads and get the ball out quickly and accurately to give your receiver or back the ability to gain yards after the catch. And let's be real here, does that sound like Cam???

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

I agree. I think they thought Cam wasn't a good fit for their offense. They didn't need a great runner, they needed a great passer. If this is going to look like New Orleans, how many times does Brees run? Exactly.  They needed someone who could get the ball out fast, could move around but stay in the pocket and was good against the blitz given that with 4 and 5 receiver sets, there are often guys blitzing who aren't accounted for. You have to make the right reads, know your audibles, see your hot reads and get the ball out quickly and accurately to give your receiver or back the ability to gain yards after the catch. And let's be real here, does that sound like Cam???

Finally somebody gets it.

[panthers55]

1 hour ago, Navy_football said:

So do we honestly think that in 2020 a player can't return from a lisfranc and shoulder soreness - after sitting for nearly a calendar year? Particularly someone that lives in the weight room anyway? We've actually had discussions on this board about Cam needing to lay off the weights. Something about flexibility and too much strength in his throws, or something like that. 

Truth is I think it wasn't just about health. I don't think he was a good fit in this offense. This type of offense doesn't play to his skill set as I said in another post 

[Montsta]

Does Cam look wayyyy bigger To anyone else in all these IG posts? He looks way thicker than the last two injured years. Did he drop the diet and go back to a meat-based protein regiment? Because he looks like original Cam and not Vikram Yoga Cam of 2017-beyond. 

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, AggieLean said:

God?! Lol

He used to be sane, now it seems he’s been given the secret handshake and the key-word list.

[Montsta]

4 hours ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why is money the first thing someone always brings up in situation like these with athletes, like money just voids your ability to have emotions or strong opinions on how something was handled ? Can someone please enlighten me? This is really a concerning opinion most share on professional athletes. 

So just because he made millions, in which he earned, he should just shut up and take any kind of treatment from the Fo of the organization?
Y’all can’t be serious today 
 

I love me some Cam and don’t think he should pay anything back, but it’s kind of an overstatement to say he earned his check the past two years. 

[tiger7_88]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

See that's the thing.  I like Cam, always have.  Followed him when he was at Auburn and prayed that The Panthers would draft him.  But I have learned that I don't dare critique his game because all the does is bring out racist's on both sides of the spectrum.  Certain players are off limits when it comes to critiquing their play.  That's just how it is.  Everyone is fair game unless it's a player that is worshipped like a God by their fans.  

See that’s the thing, I’m not just an Auburn fan but an alum. I was on campus for every home game that magical year, some away games, the SEC Championship Game, *and* the National Championship Game.

 Heard all the code words and worse about Cam, time and again, home and away.  Then I heard’em about him AND his Dad.  Gave a personal piece of my mind to many of those people.

He has NEVER been treated with the fairness and respect he deserves EVEN BY MOST OF HIS “FANS”.

 So, yeah, you can be naïve in believing that gosh golly gee-whiz that kind of stuff just NEVER happens or happened in Charlotte! Nor in The Huddle, that forum for well known, open-minded Mensa members!  You can even try to convince me of that but you’d be wasting your time.  

Every time I was accused of being a “hugger” or “worshipper” I didn’t deny it because, as I always said, Cam needed someone like me (and a few others) to at least tip the scale a little bit back in his favor from the constant poo he was served by Carolina “fans”.

I do know this though, with “loyal” fans like you, Mr. “Cam Fan”, he sure as hell doesn’t need anymore haters.

[Cpt slay a ho]

31 minutes ago, Montsta said:

I love me some Cam and don’t think he should pay anything back, but it’s kind of an overstatement to say he earned his check the past two years. 

Like the other poster stated the revenue he has made for the panthers is more than enough to compensate him for last season, 2018 although injured, he only missed the last 2-3 games. I don’t think either side got shafted in money 

[kungfoodude]

2 hours ago, Jon Snow said:

See that's the thing.  I like Cam, always have.  Followed him when he was at Auburn and prayed that The Panthers would draft him.  But I have learned that I don't dare critique his game because all the does is bring out racist's on both sides of the spectrum.  Certain players are off limits when it comes to critiquing their play.  That's just how it is.  Everyone is fair game unless it's a player that is worshipped like a God by their fans.  

It's the counter weight to the very obvious racial commentary and bigotry that has flowed his way. I sort of view it like the "MeToo" thing. It started out with people recognizing really abhorrent behavior, swung quickly in the opposite direction to wild accusations and nonsense towards everyone. Maybe this will settle in a reasonable middle, like everything else.

Yes, plenty of the criticism of Cam along the way have been obviously bigoted but that is absolutely not the basis for ALL of the criticism. He isn't infallible and he would probably tell you that himself.

I love Cam. I will always love Cam because he is one of the greatest players to ever play for this team and he made us relevant after we had fallen into the NFL basement. So I will defend him even against valid critiques because I can't be neutral. I feel the same way about most of my favorite Panthers of all time. Julius Peppers, Steve Smith, Luke Keuchly, etc. 

[BerryLoMein]

I don't think the Panthers gave up on him. I think his body gave up on him.

[AggieLean]

43 minutes ago, Montsta said:

Does Cam look wayyyy bigger To anyone else in all these IG posts? He looks way thicker than the last two injured years. Did he drop the diet and go back to a meat-based protein regiment? Because he looks like original Cam and not Vikram Yoga Cam of 2017-beyond. 

I said the same thing after seeing a picture of his on IG earlier today. Looks like he realizes he needed that extra weight.

[tiger7_88]

7 minutes ago, AggieLean said:

I said the same thing after seeing a picture of his on IG earlier today. Looks like he realizes he needed that extra weight.

Not getting my hopes up for the NFL Cam-back but, damn, I can dream can't I?