Cam Newton: "They gave up on me"

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

Unless he told them he wouldn't play without some sort of extension.  And I wouldn't blame him for wanting one, just as I wouldn't blame the team for not being willing to give him what he wants.  

Prior to the end, Newton's public statements lined up pretty closely to what we were hearing from behind the scenes.

From everything I've seen and read, the basic timeline is that Newton did push for an extension and Tepper said no. They had a stare down until Newton ultimately blinked, thinking the team would be agreeable to him playing out his last year as a "prove it" season.

The Panthers, just as numerous teams have done before, acted like they would... right up until they didn't.

And here we are...

[tiger7_88]

58 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

My best guess is if Cam would have been more open to playing on basically a one year deal, they might have been less inclined to sign TB. 

Again, you have out-dated myths as your “facts”.

The above is wrong. You are either unaware of that or you are a blatant liar.

[panthers55]

2 hours ago, Dunn said:

He shouldn't give any of that money back, he was hurting playing for the team...now if he was injured outside of football that prevented him from playing, then yes they should get the money back.  

No one actually expects him to pay it back but he doesn't need to be salty after getting millions to do nothing. 

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

No one actually expects him to pay it back but he doesn't need to be salty after getting millions to do nothing. 

So as always with the PBR-faction of Carolina fandom: “Just shut up and go away, BOY.”

[Cpt slay a ho]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

No one actually expects him to pay it back but he doesn't need to be salty after getting millions to do nothing. 

This just screams “shut up and dribble” maybe you should take this time to check out the series  “more than an athlete” you need it 

[panthers55]

40 minutes ago, Cpt slay a ho said:

Why is money the first thing someone always brings up in situation like these with athletes, like money just voids your ability to have emotions or strong opinions on how something was handled ? Can someone please enlighten me? This is really a concerning opinion most share on professional athletes. 

So just because he made millions, in which he earned, he should just shut up and take any kind of treatment from the Fo of the organization?
Y’all can’t be serious today 
 

Why is money brought up in most conversations about professional sports. Why do athletes say it is a business when they grab for the bucks as free agents? It cuts both ways. Cam can say what he wants but to act all butthurt we didn't pay another 20 million when he hasn't proven he can stay healthy is just as big a problem 

[panthers55]

Just now, Cpt slay a ho said:

This just screams “shut up and dribble” maybe you should take this time to check out the series  “more than an athlete” you need it 

There is no.loyslty in this league on either side. It is a business and athletes make unworldly money to participate.  This is a business gets thrown out there on both sides and everyone knows the score going in 

[panthers55]

5 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

So as always with the PBR-faction of Carolina fandom: “Just shut up and go away, BOY.”

Interesting that everyone who levels any criticism of Cam get labeled as racist . You keep bringing up the topic not others. Maybe you have the issue not us.

[tiger7_88]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Interesting that everyone who levels any criticism of Cam get labeled as racist . You keep bringing up the topic not others. Maybe you have the issue not us.

Racism, be it blatant, be it subtle, is an issue that concerns me, yes.

 Nice to see you finally admit it doesn’t concern you.  Confession is good for the soul and the first step toward recovery.

[Jon Snow]

1 minute ago, panthers55 said:

Interesting that everyone who levels any criticism of Cam get labeled as racist . You keep bringing up the topic not others. Maybe you have the issue not us.

All these Cam worshipers think about is race.  Everything has to do with race.  If you do not love him as much as they do it can only be because of his skin color.  I've never seen so much bigotry being leveled at people just because you don't worship their God.   

[Cpt slay a ho]

3 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

Why is money brought up in most conversations about professional sports. Why do athletes say it is a business when they grab for the bucks as free agents? It cuts both ways. Cam can say what he wants but to act all butthurt we didn't pay another 20 million when he hasn't proven he can stay healthy is just as big a problem 

Well that’s the ignorance in this statement, butthurt? By posting a motivational workout video, the amount of twisting you and others are going to paint those videos as butthurt is concerning. Than to say cam should be happy for the millions the panthers organization paid him, because there’s a disconnect in your statement between what’s the panthers money and your money, as you state “we pay” when you actually didn’t pay a cent.
 

Than if we are being real, the lesser salary he made on his rookie contract while increasing the revenue for the organization, there shouldn’t be any conversation about 20 million last season, there really shouldn’t be any conversation whatsoever about it. You act as if the payout should buy Cam’s rights to have some emotional reaction to how he was treated on his way out, it’s asinine, his bank account figure doesn’t make him any less human than you and I 

[AU-panther]

45 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Based on his own words and the words of people who know.

Remember when Newton said they'd have to force him out?

Remember when he later on said they did force him out?

There was a time when Newton was pushing for an extension, but when it became clear the Panthers weren't going to give him one he opted instead to play out the last year of his deal. The team let him believe they were okay with that.

They weren't. Hence, why Newton said he felt blindsided and had to be consoled.

Now Newton is giving his side of the story and the team is giving theirs. Up to you who you find more credible, but the ultimate result is the same and for me, actions speak louder than words.

Newton was ready to play out this last year, even if the ultimate reason was that he had no other choice.

Despite this, the team signed a replacement for him and cut him anyway. And it's pretty clear this was the plan all along.

Was it the right decision? I guess we'll find out.

Them not giving him an extension could be viewed as "forcing him out".  Everybody has a story and everyone tells it from their point of view.

When did the team make it clear they weren't giving him an extension and when did he finally decide he would play out this year?

You can't say "I won't", and then 6 months later say "I will".  Plans are made in that time.

What about this?  What if Cam from the start would have said he would playout his deal?  Maybe the plan wouldn't have been the same all along.\

Cam didn't want to play on the last year of his deal.  Team didn't want to give him an extension.  Everyone, Cam, the team, the fans, probably all thought a trade would have happened.  When it didn't they pretty much had to release him.  In the mean time the opportunity presented itself to sign TB which just further guaranteed he would be released at the very least.  

If Cam from the start would have been more willing to play out the last year of his deal, then maybe the team would have approached it differently or they should have at least considered it.

What helps your team more for rebuilding?

Cam on a one year deal, Grier and Walker

or

TB (on a 3 year deal), Grier and Walker 

They both cost roughly the same next year, the Cam combo has the best chance to acquire assets.

I'm not saying the front office handled it correctly, I have my doubts they did, but I truly believe if Cam would have been more open to playing out his deal from the start things might have gone differently. 

With that being said I don't blame Cam one bit for pushing for an extension, I would have done the same.

Looking back I think everyone, Cam, front office, fans, didn't really understand how little the rest of the league thought of Cam.

 

 

[Cpt slay a ho]

10 minutes ago, panthers55 said:

There is no.loyslty in this league on either side. It is a business and athletes make unworldly money to participate.  This is a business gets thrown out there on both sides and everyone knows the score going in 

No one mention loyalty but your post indicates since he made millions he should just shut up and be happy, doesn’t work that way and never should. It is a business and bad business deserves criticism, Idk where you get the notion that your bank acct status should void any opinions you have about a previous employer or the even more concerning part that being a paid athlete makes you different than anyone else 

[tiger7_88]

7 minutes ago, Jon Snow said:

All these Cam worshipers think about is race.  Everything has to do with race.  If you do not love him as much as they do it can only be because of his skin color.  I've never seen so much bigotry being leveled at people just because you don't worship their God.   

So sad.

How much was your soul worth? Conditional 7th and a bag of balls?