Cam Newton: "They gave up on me"

[Mr. Scot]

45 minutes ago, rippadonn said:

Bad business Scot. Ive owned a couple businesses. Your reputation matters not what everybody else does.

"It's a business" is no excuse to screw folk who have been good/great employees.

Respect, integrity, honesty, thoughtfulness is how you treat others Scot.

What a wicked world you advocate. Hopefully it'll have mercy on you.

Yeah...Not "advocating" anything. Just explaining to you how the real world works.

Remember what happened when the 49ers dropped Joe Montana (and Jerry Rice too, for that matter)?

How about when the Colts dumped Peyton Manning?

When the Cowboys let go of Emmitt Smith?

Or maybe when the Seahawks parted ways with Richard Sherman?

I can actually tell you what happened in every single one of those cases.

Nothing.

People were mad for a little while but everybody moved on. And none of the players did anyting rash about it because they all understood it was a business.

That's the NFL.

You want to be upset about it? Cool. You have every right to be.

Just don't have any illusions about that making any difference because it won't. This is how it's been for decades and it's not changing anytime soon.

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

2 hours ago, bull123 said:

very few if any of us will walk away from being fired after being paid way over $100m in 9 yrs,

i guess this thing could have been handled better, but no way do i feel sorry for Cam...he will be just fine

 

Spoken like a true pleb.

It's not Newton's fault that you're not satisfied with your life. This is too personal for you (And others). Newton would've been fine even if he never joined the NFL. He could've traded off his college career.

The day you get a job where your skills, knowledge and potential is valued in order to accomplish a lofty goal for the organization. When you get a job where your motivation is above what you're getting paid (And more to the point, surviving from pay check to pay check). The day getting paid is a matter of your value relative to others in you field (As opposed to plebs living off tips week to week). The day you get cut from such a job for superficial reasons without accomplishing such a lofty goal, is the day you might understand what Newton is talking about.

At a personal level, this is no big deal. But as I stated earlier, Newton even now could be living a cuchy life off his college career. There would be heaps of business, particularly from, trade,or have some association with Alabama, that would love to have him in their books.

But as the embodiment of Carolina Panthers football, and the legacy of Newton's career, "we/Panthers" have indeed gave up on him. It only makes the Carolina Panthers look bad.

[tiger7_88]

10 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

Newton would've been fine even if he never joined the NFL. He could've traded off his college career.

Yep.

Maybe not from the smokeless tobacco dippers and spitters of the AU alum community, but he would have absolutely been taken care of.

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

1 hour ago, Mr. Scot said:

Dude, I'm not sure how old you are or how long you've been watching football, but here's something you should probably understand.

Every player in the NFL is a commodity, and the vast majority of them depart the NFL without achieving their goals.

To be frank, the team's priority is not to ensure that the players achieve their personal best. It's to win football games.

If they think a player can help them do that, they keep them. If not, they don't.

For longtime players, when there comes a point that the team believes your ability to contribute to game winning is no longer equal to what your agent is asking for in salary, they're going to part ways with you. And it doesn't really matter whether their judgment is right or wrong, the result is the same.

This is the NFL.

If you want guaranteed happy endings watch a sports movie, because in the real world they're the exception, not the norm.

Alright, we get it it. You're a hard ass.

You're so indoctrinated in being a hard ass and that "This is the NFL" that you can't see the forest for the trees.

Even if you're so butt hurt about Newton that you think Smith is the best Panthers player ever. Newton is then second best. So along with how Smith got treated, we've now shafted Newton. You won't be able to pin this one on Gettleman. We've shown the NFL that regardless of who's part of the regime, top Panthers players will get shafted.

Next in line is McCaffrey. It'll now be a question on whether he or the regime pulls the trigger first. But after what's occurred, no question his gun is loaded.

[OneBadCat]

No matter how you look at it Cam was treated poorly. Doesn’t matter what the game is behind the scenes. The way it looks right now is they straight up lied to Cam and the fans that the best QB that ever played for them was going to be back. They had the new HC sit there and lie about it.
 

I always be a Panthers fan but yeah it doesn’t sit well with me. I don’t want to be a fan of people that do that in general. Smitty was disrespected too. We were all here before Tepper and he’s acting like a Colin Cowherd tit sucking a hole. It just is what it is. I hope it all works out but he doesn’t care about the legacy of the franchise beyond a surface level. Bringing Smitty back was PR for him.

[heel31ok]

2 hours ago, tiger7_88 said:

Sorry for making you look up a word.

Must have been embarrassing for you.

Why would it be ? 

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

53 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Yeah...Not "advocating" anything. Just explaining to you how the real world works.

Remember what happened when the 49ers dropped Joe Montana (and Jerry Rice too, for that matter)?

How about when the Colts dumped Peyton Manning?

When the Cowboys let go of Emmitt Smith?

Or maybe when the Seahawks parted ways with Richard Sherman?

I can actually tell you what happened in every single one of those cases.

Nothing.

People were mad for a little while but everybody moved on. And none of the players did anyting rash about it because they all understood it was a business.

That's the NFL.

You want to be upset about it? Cool. You have every right to be.

Just don't have any illusions about that making any difference because it won't. This is how it's been for decades and it's not changing anytime soon.

Wrong!

49ers may've dropped Montana. But that's after a few years of Young being his back up. It's not like "moving on" from him was a complete surprise to Joe.

Had it been a salary cap league back then, Montana and Young would not have been on the same team.

Rice, Smith and Sherman don't play qb. I'm not sure what their relationship is with the team, or how their legacy is seen.

You think nothing's happened with the Colts dumping Manning? In actual fact, one of the worst things has happened. Manning is a legendary player. Despite being there for 14 years and winning a SB, Indy will forever have to share the legacy/history of Manning with the Broncos. That actually diminishes their own history and reputation.

Indy can't claim Manning as their own. Manning is going into the HoF, but it won't be clear cut as a Colt. Manning equalled (or bettered) his accomplishments with Indy at the Broncos.  This enhances Manning's reputation, but diminishes the Colts.

History will show Indy shafted their legendary player for Andrew Luck. History will show it was a silly decision and the Colts will wear the brunt of it. They've now become a nothing, vanilla team. They were better off keeping Manning and letting him peter out.

It's similar with Kurt Warner. He didn't want to leave the Rams. It's just a dumbass in Mike Martz made the choice of replacing him with Marc Bulger. It was a logical choice, Warner was injured and Bulger is a good qb. How did that work out for them? Bulger was a good player, but did not match the heights of Warner's career. Warner then accomplished the extraordinary feat of getting the Cardinals to the SB, while the Rams were pathetic.

You're seem to be so caught up in the "business" side and "how the NFL is" that you don't recognise how many times they lead to stupid decisions.

 

 

[heel31ok]

5 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

Wrong!

49ers may've dropped Montana. But that's after a few years of Young being his back up. It's not like "moving on" from him was a complete surprise to Joe.

Had it been a salary cap league back then, Montana and Young would not have been on the same team.

Rice, Smith and Sherman don't play qb. I'm not sure what their relationship is with the team, or how their legacy is seen.

You think nothing's happened with the Colts dumping Manning? In actual fact, one of the worst things has happened. Manning is a legendary player. Despite being there for 14 years and winning a SB, Indy will forever have to share the legacy/history of Manning with the Broncos. That actually diminishes their own history and reputation.

Indy can't claim Manning as their own. Manning is going into the HoF, but it won't be clear cut as a Colt. Manning equalled (or bettered) his accomplishments with Indy at the Broncos.  This enhances Manning's reputation, but diminishes the Colts.

History will show Indy shafted their legendary player for Andrew Luck. History will show it was a silly decision and the Colts will wear the brunt of it. They've now become a nothing, vanilla team. They were better off keeping Manning and letting him peter out.

It's similar with Kurt Warner. He didn't want to leave the Rams. It's just a dumbass in Mike Martz made the choice of replacing him with Marc Bulger. It was a logical choice, Warner was injured and Bulger is a good qb. How did that work out for them? Bulger was a good player, but did not match the heights of Warner's career. Warner then accomplished the extraordinary feat of getting the Cardinals to the SB, while the Rams were pathetic.

You're seem to be so caught up in the "business" side and "how the NFL is" that you don't recognise how many times they lead to stupid decisions.

 

 

Yeah like dropping Bledsoe like a hot pocket...lol

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

You might want to review your history. Belichick's first year at NE went 5-11 with Bledsoe starting all games.

He also put his balls on the line to say that Brady was going to be the starter ahead of Beldsoe. Had it not worked out, he'd have known he'd have been dumped.

No one in the Panthers regime is putting their balls on the line.

[heel31ok]

18 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

You might want to review your history. Belichick's first year at NE went 5-11 with Bledsoe starting all games.

He also put his balls on the line to say that Brady was going to be the starter ahead of Beldsoe. Had it not worked out, he'd have known he'd have been dumped.

No one in the Panthers regime is putting their balls on the line.

None of that changes what I said and what happened...and Tepper has everything on the line.

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

Idk wtf you're talking about.

Belichick didn't chop and change straight away. He then made a change which ulitmately paid off in the biggest way. Because it did, it gives him clout. After 3 SB wins, then then has credit when he does **** up.

In the case of Tepper. If the team has been crap for 5 seasons, no success occurs like he was saying, he's not going to sell the team to someone capable. He'll still own it and it'll be his play thingy.

[heel31ok]

1 hour ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

Idk wtf you're talking about.

Belichick didn't chop and change straight away. He then made a change which ulitmately paid off in the biggest way. Because it did, it gives him clout. After 3 SB wins, then then has credit when he does **** up.

In the case of Tepper. If the team has been crap for 5 seasons, no success occurs like he was saying, he's not going to sell the team to someone capable. He'll still own it and it'll be his play thingy.

You are correct...you dont know what I'm talking about...that's still just life in the NFL...sometimes it works out sometimes it doesn't... 

[Delhomme2Muhammad]

Now that is a true pleb.

It might work, it might not? It's just guessing.

Don't worry about any method or plan. Don't worry about enhancing the reputation of the Panthers in the absence of winning a SB. These things will just "happen".

 

[heel31ok]

4 minutes ago, Delhomme2Muhammad said:

Now that is a true pleb.

It might work, it might not? It's just guessing.

Don't worry about any method or plan. Don't worry about enhancing the reputation of the Panthers in the absence of winning a SB. These things will just "happen".

 

Now that's just you making up nonsense and a false narrative...just because they aren't doing things the way you want...