Who gets signed first: Winston or Newton?

[NanuqoftheNorth]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

La Canfora believes the market for Newton right now is around one year, 15 million dollars.

That's a "prove it" contract.

Cam has a much better likelihood of getting a call after a team loses their starting QB for the season than hooking up with a team from the get go.

His throwing arm's ability to physically endure the rigors of an entire NFL season, not his skill/talent, is the reason Cam is on the outside looking in.

[thefuzz]

34 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lots of people thought Bruce Arians could fix it.

Winston was said to be one of the reasons why Arians took the Tampa Bay job. Now he's dumping him after just a year.

You can get two conclusions out of that. Either Arians isn't as good as people thought or Winston is just that bad.

I'm in the former crowd, rather than the latter.

I think that BA is terribly overrated, and I think that Winston is an above average passer.

 

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Cam has a much better likelyhood of getting a call after a team loses their starting QB for the season than hooking up with a team from the get go.

His ability to physically endure the rigors of an entire NFL season, not his skill/talent, is the reason Cam is on the outside looking in.

Timing could be an issue as well.

It's not unusual that has the draft drugs close, if you were free agents get signed. Teams want to see how the draft shakes out before going any further. And filling a need with a draft pick is always going to be cheaper than using a free agent.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

I'm in the former crowd, rather than the latter.

I think that BA is terribly overrated, and I think that Winston is an above average passer.

It's a valid possibility.

Heaven knows I'm not that high on Ron Rivera's in game coaching ability, but he sure did seem to be able to outcoach Arians.

[thefuzz]

4 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Cam has a much better likelihood of getting a call after a team loses their starting QB for the season than hooking up with a team from the get go.

His arm's ability to physically endure the rigors of an entire NFL season, not his skill/talent, is the reason Cam is on the outside looking in.

100% accurate.

If teams knew the shoulder could withstand a full season, he would have been traded for, now we wait.

 

[thefuzz]

5 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

It's a valid possibility.

Heaven knows I'm not that high on Ron Rivera's in game coaching ability, but he sure did seem to be able to outcoach Arians.

Yup, and that's saying something.

[nogoodbum]

Sad to say, probably Winston. Far too many owners, GMs, talking heads in sports media, football fans, & yes Huddle 'fans' that suffer from Ron [no tie] Rivera syndrome on steroids. IMO

[Snake]

Winston because he's not injured. 

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Neither.

[CanadianCat]

Question: Has Cam even not been a starter or the leader in the locker room?

Cam is a type A guy. If would be pretty hard for a guy who has 'always been the best' to be a back up. I especially dont see him backing up a rookie QB. 

Cam was really good to Allen but he knew he was the man when he came back. I have a hard time seeing him taking a back up role. I think he would rather just retire. I also dont see Cam wanting to sit a year out. I would not be surprised to see him retire if he doesnt get signed to a starting role. 

 

[Khyber53]

23 hours ago, CanadianCat said:

Question: Has Cam even not been a starter or the leader in the locker room?

Cam is a type A guy. If would be pretty hard for a guy who has 'always been the best' to be a back up. I especially dont see him backing up a rookie QB. 

Cam was really good to Allen but he knew he was the man when he came back. I have a hard time seeing him taking a back up role. I think he would rather just retire. I also dont see Cam wanting to sit a year out. I would not be surprised to see him retire if he doesnt get signed to a starting role. 

 

All QBs have to face this at some time in their career.

[CanadianCat]

6 minutes ago, Khyber53 said:

All QBs have to face this at some time in their career.

Except Cam. He has like 100M in the bank right now.. He can choose what he wants. 

[philit99]

Dang, Jameis just threw another pick 6.

[Khyber53]

1 minute ago, CanadianCat said:

Except Cam. He has like 100M in the bank right now.. He can choose what he wants. 

I'm beginning to think he doesn't. And some of that will be earmarked for some upcoming civil cases.