Who gets signed first: Winston or Newton?

[top dawg]

Winston, because Cam will be less mentally prepared to take a pay cut and accept his new role.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

Winston is out of a job because of his TD/Turnover ratio, can that be fixed at this point in his career?

[KatsAzz]

I don't think either one will be signed until after the season starts and quarterbacks start getting injured. Then, if Cam's phyical is oked by  a needy team, i feel he would be selected before the turnover machine,Winston.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Winston is out of a job because of his TD/Turnover ratio, can that be fixed at this point in his career?

Lots of people thought Bruce Arians could fix it.

Winston was said to be one of the reasons why Arians took the Tampa Bay job. Now he's dumping him after just a year.

You can get two conclusions out of that. Either Arians isn't as good as people thought or Winston is just that bad.

[PNW_PantherMan]

Winston would be a Buc if TB wasn't a free agent and he didn't ask for 30 million.

Every QB has a spike in INTs their first year with Arians.  I bet he would have done better next year, but they aren't gonna pass up TB.

[fortyrod]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

Cam could go to Tampa and back up Tom Brady.

I would pay actual money to see that.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Lots of people thought Bruce Arians could fix it.

Winston was said to be one of the reasons why Arians took the Tampa Bay job. Now he's dumping him after just a year.

You can get two conclusions out of that. Either Arians isn't as good as people thought or Winston is just that bad.

Of course Arians isn't the first coach to fail to correct Winston's problem with interceptions.

Hard to imagine a team that would want him in a pass happy league.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Of course Arians isn't the first coach to fail to correct Winston's problem with interceptions.

Hard to imagine a team that would want him in a pass happy league.

People kept trying to fix Terrell Owens and Antonio Brown.

There's always some coach who's got enough of an ego to believe they can succeed where everybody else failed.

[fortyrod]

1 hour ago, JARROD said:

Personally I think Cam should go sign as a backup with like Pittsburgh. Ben may or may not come back to form and Cam could start. 

This is the most intriguing possibility for me. It comes with a big side-helping of "FU Tepper!" I can see Cam taking a lesser deal for some intangibles like this. Not sure about his agent though!

[Davidson Deac II]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Winston is one of those guys who's capable of being really good, unfortunately also capable of being really bad.?

In the same set of downs.  

[Mr. Scot]

1 minute ago, Davidson Deac II said:

In the same set of downs.  

True.

They used to refer to Dave Krieg as a guy who could keep both teams in the game. That's probably Winston as well.

[Davidson Deac II]

It depends on the teams desires.  Winston would probably be signed as a backup, where as Newton has proven he can win when healthy, and would likely want to be a starter.  If Winston is willing to be a backup from the beginning, he might be signed more quickly, but Newton will likely get a bigger contract.  

[cardiackat88.]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Winston is one of those guys who's capable of being really good, unfortunately also capable of being really bad.

Anybody that signs him is going to have to believe they have a coach who's capable of helping him minimize the bad. But then you have to ask yourself if a QB guy like Bruce Arians couldn't do it, who can?

I would love to see an offense that had Winston at QB, Ted Ginn at WR, and Leonard Fournette at RB. They could name them "Boom or bust" or "The consistently inconsistents".

[Mr. Scot]

La Canfora believes the market for Newton right now is around one year, 15 million dollars.

That's a "prove it" contract.