Sorry to say...

[kungfoodude]

13 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

covidtrial.io

President Trump discussed this trial in his press conference yesterday.  FDA has evidently cleared it.  The media isn't really mentioning it much... not surprising...

Okay, just read that. 22 patients is pretty small so it is great to see an expansion. I would say it is pretty early to tout that as a definitive cure. Let them do the work necessary to prove that out. Hopefully it is a very effective. 

[DeAngelo Beason]

Just now, kungfoodude said:

Okay, just read that. 22 patients is pretty small so it is great to see an expansion. I would say it is pretty early to tout that as a definitive cure. Let them do the work necessary to prove that out. Hopefully it is a very effective. 

There was another drug mentioned (remsvedir, something like that) that is also having significant success.

The reality is this isn't the Motaba mystery virus.  It's a coronavirus and they are all pretty much treated in a similar way.

[RoaringRiot]

At this point it’s certainly precautionary, but talks about playing the season with no fans have happened. 

[kungfoodude]

8 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

There was another drug mentioned (remsvedir, something like that) that is also having significant success.

The reality is this isn't the Motaba mystery virus.  It's a coronavirus and they are all pretty much treated in a similar way.

Well, I am not so sure about that because we have already experienced outbreaks of another version of this SARS and also MERS but they didn't seem to have treatment plans for people that are seriously ill. I think they are honestly making these breakthroughs now, although I am sure they took lessons from those other outbreaks to point them in the right direction.

Lots of very intelligent and dedicated people working on it across the globe.

[kungfoodude]

2 minutes ago, RoaringRiot said:

At this point it’s certainly precautionary, but talks about playing the season with no fans have happened. 

Wait.....is that why Tepper is making these moves??? Wow.....he's a visionary! He deconstructed our team to keep fans away in the interest of public health. 

Maybe I was wrong about this guy....

[DeAngelo Beason]

11 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Okay, just read that. 22 patients is pretty small so it is great to see an expansion. I would say it is pretty early to tout that as a definitive cure. Let them do the work necessary to prove that out. Hopefully it is a very effective. 

I get very concerned when government talks about "necessary work" because that tends to take much longer than it logically should.  Thankfully a lot of red tape is getting cleared up.  In the case of this trial, both drugs have very very mild side effects, so there's no harm in pushing forward.  I read somewhere else that Bayer is in the process of manufacturing 3 million treatments.

Worth noting, a 100% average is pretty darn good regardless of sample size. To make a football analogy, it's pretty damn near impossible to hit 22 passes in a row.  

[kungfoodude]

7 minutes ago, DeAngelo Beason said:

I get very concerned when government talks about "necessary work" because that tends to take much longer than it logically should.  Thankfully a lot of red tape is getting cleared up.  In the case of this trial, both drugs have very very mild side effects, so there's no harm in pushing forward.  I read somewhere else that Bayer is in the process of manufacturing 3 million treatments.

Worth noting, a 100% average is pretty darn good regardless of sample size. To make a football analogy, it's pretty damn near impossible to hit 22 passes in a row.  

That isn't the way science works and there are ample reasons for that. You need to make sure those results are valid before you bull ahead with treatment. It keeps charlatans and potentially dangerous treatments out of the public(and I realize the danger is unlikely for this specific drug). 

Let's just hope that proves to be a highly effective treatment and will reduce a tremendous amount of burden from the healthcare system.

[Anybodyhome]

3 hours ago, tep's lil wee wee said:

trump announced in a presser yesterday that hydroxychloroquine kills the virus in 6 days, and they are sitting on a cache of 3 million tablets that they are immediately sending out to affected citizens. 

hydrochlorquine is from the 1950s, and is already approved by the FDA...only testing now to find the correct dosage to fight the virus because taking way too much can be harmful.

Bullshit.

A drug used to treat malaria and arthritis has shown promise against coronavirus and could be “a game changer” in stopping the outbreak, President Donald Trump announced at a White House press conference Thursday. The already existing drug, known as Hydroxychloroquine, exhibited “encouraging early results against the virus. We’re going to be able to make that drug available immediately” by prescription, the president said.

Trump said the drug was being “fast-tracked” by the FDA, but the agency later clarified that the drug had not yet been approved to treat COVID-19, according to Bloomberg News.

“Nice part is it’s been around a long time, so if things don’t go well, we know it won’t kill anyone,” Trump said.

After the press conference, experts quickly disagreed with the president about the effectiveness of the drug, and said the public should temper any optimism about it being a true vaccine.

Thus far, no U.S. clinical trials have been conducted to show its effectiveness against the virus,

[4Corners]

1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

Highly unlikely. We might have a vaccine in 12 months and we might not. Plenty of work on that now and there are a lot of current drugs that are showing some promise in combating it in the meantime. In the Western world the overall mortality rate is relatively low(save for Italy). The big losses of life will be if this starts spreading rapidly in developing and third world countries. The death figures will likely be astronomically higher than in China, Europe and the US. 

We may not be well prepared here in the US but we at least have a lot of infrastructure and resources. That is not the case in the third world.

DrKungFoolDoodoo with more astute medical opinions 

[Harbingers]

3 hours ago, RoaringRiot said:

At this point it’s certainly precautionary, but talks about playing the season with no fans have happened. 

There will be riots in the streets if this goes on until August/September. *Rimshot* I mean China cleared it up in 2 months really. 

I think the biggest concern would be is if it comes roaring back in force next fall into winter. *rimshot*

[TuckerMax25]

7 hours ago, GRWatcher said:

There's so much that is unknown right now that the season can't be predicted. Even if they suspend off season camps until Fall and have a shortened season, the big question remains what are fans going to do? Will crowds continue to be frowned upon and will they listen? You have to consider, too, that the economy is going to tank, unemployment will rise probably to double digits. Money spent on football games is discretionary money and there may not be a lot of that around. Your average fan may be asking, do I pay the mortgage, pay bills, get my prescriptions, put food on the table or go to Sunday's football game? The NFL may enforce the blackout rule again.

There's also questions about next year's draft. Will there even be college football in 2020?

The draft is my huge question how it all works out. 

[TuckerMax25]

9 hours ago, Rockahype said:

The bit I've read about vaccine timelines suggests mid 2021 as a best case scenario. What are you hearing or being told? 

That’s realistic for fully ramped and mass production. Fully anticipate vaccine before then. But logistics of this level of production we will need is not easy and will take time. 

[TheMaulClaw]

11 hours ago, TuckerMax25 said:

But there is an increasingly slim chance that we even get football this upcoming season. As an employee of one of front runners in the bio-pharm industry working on a cure/treatment. I just don’t see it happening.  
 

My question to y’all is, how does the nfl handle everything if this is the case. Years under contract, players salaries, draft able players, etc. 

I know Jerry Jones is worried about having Jerry's world empty.

The NFL is the only league where they would still be profitable with no fans in attendence.

I think this virus is why the players quickly agreed to the CBA. Had they waited and this virus caused a massive drop in revenue...it would have been bad for the players.

[LinvilleGorge]

If this virtual lockdown is still going into the fall, we have MUCH bigger problems than football. Our economy will be beyond crippled at that point. We'll be in the midst of the Great Depression v. 2.0.