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Observation: Panthers have a plan, you’re just not gonna like it

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1 hour ago, tep's lil wee wee said:

competing again in 2022 or 2023? tepper seems like the kind of guy that doesnt like having a small fish football team in a big market pond, probably move us to london around 2023 so he can be THE nfl guy in europe, as well as run his shlthouse soccer fantasy somewhere people actually like it. 

 

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1 hour ago, kungfoodude said:

It's a highlight reel. You would need to see some full games to see why he had a relatively low completion percentage. The talent is there, without question. He just needs a couple of more seasons of polish.

I have, and I think he's really good.

He's still a college quarterback and still need some polish of course, but there's a load of potential there.

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Kyle Bailey's info while he was talking about Newton today changes things up a little bit.

According to Bailey, there are people within the team who understand that it's best to, as you say, "embrace the suck" for right now.

Marty Hurney isn't one of them. Marty still thinks the team can be made competitive again quickly, maybe even this year.

That probably helps explain why some of the team's moves seem contradictory. While the team probably should be doing a full rebuild, you've got Marty trying to save his ass.

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3 hours ago, Doc Holiday said:

How do we know what the plan is? What is our goal and target?

look at the contracts we are signing compared to what our division opponents are signing.

Panthers aren’t planning to compete with New Orleans and Tampa for the next 2 years....

we are planning to wait them out.

make no doubt if you still had any at this point. This is a full rebuild with our plan to start competing again in 2022 at the earliest, probably 2023.

embrace the suck.

 

you mean we were competing the last several years?

yikes

fun fact: we averaged barely 7 wins a season since 2016

 

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2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kyle Bailey's info while he was talking about Newton today changes things up a little bit.

According to Bailey, there are people within the team who understand that it's best to, as you say, "embrace the suck" for right now.

Marty Hurney isn't one of them. Marty still thinks the team can be made competitive again quickly, maybe even this year.

That probably helps explain why some of the team's moves seem contradictory. While the team probably should be doing a full rebuild, you've got Marty trying to save his ass.

Don't we have a team president or Head of Football operations that can bitchslap Hurney and tell him to do as he's told?

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3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Kyle Bailey's info while he was talking about Newton today changes things up a little bit.

According to Bailey, there are people within the team who understand that it's best to, as you say, "embrace the suck" for right now.

Marty Hurney isn't one of them. Marty still thinks the team can be made competitive again quickly, maybe even this year.

That probably helps explain why some of the team's moves seem contradictory. While the team probably should be doing a full rebuild, you've got Marty trying to save his ass.

I don't think Marty's trying to save his ass. He's been promised some sort of lateral move within the organization down the line regardless or his performance as GM. I'd have to think Tepper would mandate a common vision between owner, coach & GM so it doesn't make sense that Hurney would be driving in a different direction from the other 2.

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1 minute ago, Jon Snow said:

Don't we have a team president or Head of Football operations that can bitchslap Hurney and tell him to do as he's told?

The thing right now is there's nobody else that could run the draft.

You gotta figure Marty's here at least till then. After that, who knows?

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

The thing right now is there's nobody else that could run the draft.

You gotta figure Marty's here at least till then. After that, who knows?

That's fine but they don't have to allow him to run FA as well.  I would tell his ass to sit down a shut up until 1 hour before the draft.

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Just now, emcannon said:

I don't think Marty's trying to save his ass. He's been promised some sort of lateral move within the organization down the line regardless or his performance as GM. I'd have to think Tepper would mandate a common vision between owner, coach & GM so it doesn't make sense that Hurney would be driving in a different direction from the other 2.

Marty's only under contract through the end of this season.

More to the point though, I don't really think he wants a lateral move. He wants to keep full power.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

Marty's only under contract through the end of this season.

More to the point though, I don't really think he wants a lateral move. He wants to keep full power.

Hurney may want that, but all outward indications are Tepper wants fresh blood on the football ops side. Hurney's just a bridge to the next GM at this point.

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1 minute ago, emcannon said:

Hurney may want that, but all outward indications are Tepper wants fresh blood on the football ops side. Hurney's just a bridge to the next GM at this point.

I'd agree.

But if Marty also realizes that, he would also realize that he needs to show the team why they should keep him as GM.

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The team is trying to be competitive in 2020. How well that works out remains to be seen. That is the plan and anyone who says they know we suck is just making guesses with little information. Football isn't about having stars and no teamwork, we did that in 2019. It is working together so the team result is better than the sum of it's individual parts.  Whether that happens remains to be seen.

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