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I don't recognize this team anymore


Jmac

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Same, I’ll come around once they get their head out of their assess but until then I’ll watch as a causal fan, I’m here in GA and falcons fans are about to laugh themselves into a comma over the recent moves we’ve made.Thought tepper knew what he was doing but that seems to be trending the opposite based solely off the moves, statements, ect he’s made 

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31 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

2010 was similar in terms of team turnover 

Not really...still had S.Smith, Beason, Gamble, kalil, Gross etc....still a core of the team. No they have no body in that category. 

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33 minutes ago, Move the Panthers to Raleigh said:

2010 was similar in terms of team turnover 

I dunno we are much more gutted now than 2010. At least we had a handful of fan favorites and good players like Smitty, Gross, Kalil, Stew, Gamble, Beason, TD, etc. Right now the cupboards went bare really fast. 

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No. Player  Age Pos G GS Wt Ht College/Univ BirthDate Yrs AV Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Salary
  Team Total 26.7   16   247.8 6-2.1

 

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97 Mario Addison 29 de 14 1 260 6-3 Troy 9/6/1987 5 3   $1,620,000
3 Derek Anderson 33 qb 5 2 235 6-6 Oregon St. 6/15/1983 10 1 Baltimore Ravens / 6th / 213th pick / 2005 $1,950,000
34 Cameron Artis-Payne 26 rb 3 3 215 5-10 Auburn 6/23/1990 1 1 Carolina Panthers / 5th / 174th pick / 2015 $566,563
36 Marcus Ball 29   1 0 209 6-1 Memphis 7/21/1987 2 0    
13 Kelvin Benjamin 25 WR 16 13 245 6-5 Florida St. 2/5/1991 2 7 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 28th pick / 2014 $2,090,250
25 Bene Benwikere 25 rcb 4 4 195 6-0 San Jose St. 9/3/1991 2 2 Carolina Panthers / 5th / 148th pick / 2014 $649,750
11 Brenton Bersin 26   10 0 211 6-3 Wofford 5/9/1990 3 0   $600,000
33 Tre Boston 24 FS 15 10 205 6-1 North Carolina 6/25/1992 2 5 Carolina Panthers / 4th / 128th pick / 2014 $701,367
24 James Bradberry 23 LCB 13 13 212 6-1 Samford,Arkansas St. 8/4/1993 Rook 6 Carolina Panthers / 2nd / 62nd pick / 2016 $720,152
10 Corey Brown 25 WR 16 8 190 5-11 Ohio St. 12/16/1991 2 2   $605,000
92 Vernon Butler 22   10 0 330 6-4 Louisiana Tech 6/14/1994 Rook 1 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 30th pick / 2016 $1,526,639
18 Damiere Byrd 23   1 0 180 5-9 South Carolina 1/27/1993 Rook 0   $458,000
57 Jeremy Cash 24   8 0 230 6-0 Duke 12/6/1992 Rook 0   $456,666
20 Kurt Coleman 28 SS 15 15 208 5-11 Ohio St. 7/1/1988 6 7 Philadelphia Eagles / 7th / 244th pick / 2010 $2,184,375
58 Thomas Davis* 33 LB 16 16 235 6-1 Georgia 3/22/1983 11 11 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 14th pick / 2005 $7,500,000
91 Ryan Delaire 24   6 0 260 6-4 Towson 1/17/1992 1 1   $525,000
84 Ed Dickson 29 TE 16 8 250 6-4 Oregon 7/25/1987 6 1 Baltimore Ravens / 3rd / 70th pick / 2010 $2,566,666
30 Travell Dixon 25   1 0 210 6-1 Washington 2/17/1991 Rook 0   $26,470
94 Kony Ealy 25 de 16 6 275 6-4 Missouri 12/21/1991 2 4 Carolina Panthers / 2nd / 60th pick / 2014 $967,317
93 Lavar Edwards 26   5 0 277 6-4 LSU 3/29/1990 3 0 Tennessee Titans / 5th / 142nd pick / 2013 $675,000
No. Player  Age Pos G GS Wt Ht College/Univ BirthDate Yrs AV Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Salary
17 Devin Funchess 22 wr 15 7 225 6-4 Michigan 5/21/1994 1 3 Carolina Panthers / 2nd / 41st pick / 2015 $1,254,747
9 Graham Gano 29 K 16 0 202 6-2 Florida St. 4/9/1987 7 3   $3,850,000
19 Ted Ginn 31 WR 16 8 180 5-11 Ohio St. 4/12/1985 9 6 Miami Dolphins / 1st / 9th pick / 2007 $2,775,000
66 Gino Gradkowski 28 c 10 3 300 6-3 Delaware 11/5/1988 4 2 Baltimore Ravens / 4th / 98th pick / 2012 $950,000
22 Michael Griffin 31 fs 13 6 202 6-0 Texas 1/4/1985 9 3 Tennessee Titans / 1st / 19th pick / 2007 $3,000,000
78 Donald Hawkins 24   7 0 310 6-5 Texas 4/22/1992 2 0   $525,000
96 Wes Horton 27 DE 11 10 265 6-5 USC 12/17/1989 3 4   $675,000
53 Ben Jacobs 28   4 0 240 6-4 Fresno St. 4/17/1988 5 0   $158,824
44 J.J. Jansen 30   16 0 235 6-2 Notre Dame 1/20/1986 7 1   $1,025,000
95 Charles Johnson 30 DE 13 13 270 6-2 Georgia 7/10/1986 9 6 Carolina Panthers / 3rd / 83rd pick / 2007 $2,562,500
23 Leonard Johnson 26   10 0 194 5-10 Iowa St. 3/30/1990 4 1   $760,000
42 Colin Jones 29 fs 14 1 205 6-0 TCU 10/27/1987 5 1 San Francisco 49ers / 6th / 190th pick / 2011 $885,000
67 Ryan Kalil 31 C 8 8 300 6-2 USC 3/29/1985 9 3 Carolina Panthers / 2nd / 59th pick / 2007 $11,829,000
56 A.J. Klein 25 mlb 15 7 240 6-1 Iowa St. 7/30/1991 3 3 Carolina Panthers / 5th / 148th pick / 2013 $722,825
59 Luke Kuechly* 25 MLB 10 10 238 6-3 Boston Col. 4/20/1991 4 10 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 9th pick / 2012 $6,000,000
69 Tyler Larsen 25 c 9 5 325 6-4 Utah St. 7/8/1991 Rook 2   $450,000
8 Andy Lee 34 P 9 0 185 6-1 Pittsburgh 8/11/1982 12 2 San Francisco 49ers / 6th / 188th pick / 2004 $2,833,000
98 Star Lotulelei 27 LDT 16 16 315 6-2 Utah 12/20/1989 3 7 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 14th pick / 2013 $3,055,977
77 Kyle Love 30 de 10 1 310 6-1 Mississippi St. 11/18/1986 6 2   $625,882
82 Chris Manhertz 24   4 0 255 6-6 Canisius 4/10/1992 2 0   $450,000
No. Player  Age Pos G GS Wt Ht College/Univ BirthDate Yrs AV Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Salary
29 Dean Marlowe 24   1 0 208 6-1 James Madison 7/25/1992 1 0   $530,000
55 David Mayo 23   15 0 245 6-2 Texas St. 8/8/1993 1 1 Carolina Panthers / 5th / 169th pick / 2015 $566,563
27 Robert McClain 28 cb 11 6 180 5-9 Connecticut 7/22/1988 6 3 Carolina Panthers / 7th / 249th pick / 2010 $810,000
1 Cam Newton 27 QB 15 14 245 6-5 Florida,Blinn College (TX),Auburn 5/11/1989 5 11 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 1st pick / 2011 $19,500,000
52 Jared Norris 23   14 0 238 6-1 Utah 7/19/1993 Rook 1   $450,000
68 Andrew Norwell 25 LG 16 16 325 6-6 Ohio St. 10/25/1991 2 6   $604,000
73 Michael Oher 30 lt 3 3 309 6-5 Mississippi 5/28/1986 7 1 Baltimore Ravens / 1st / 23rd pick / 2009 $4,500,000
88 Greg Olsen* 31 TE 16 16 255 6-5 Miami (FL) 3/11/1985 9 8 Chicago Bears / 1st / 31st pick / 2007 $5,100,000
5 Michael Palardy 24   7 0 200 5-11 Tennessee 7/6/1992 2 1   $450,000
74 Mike Remmers 27 LT 16 16 310 6-5 Oregon St. 4/11/1989 4 8   $2,553,000
31 Zack Sanchez 23 lcb 5 1 185 5-11 Oklahoma 10/11/1993 Rook 1 Carolina Panthers / 5th / 141st pick / 2016 $344,110
79 Chris Scott 29 rg 12 4 340 6-4 Tennessee 8/4/1987 5 2 Pittsburgh Steelers / 5th / 151st pick / 2010 $538,823
99 Kawann Short 27 RDT 16 16 315 6-3 Purdue 2/2/1989 3 7 Carolina Panthers / 2nd / 44th pick / 2013 $1,473,192
80 Scott Simonson 24 te 5 1 255 6-5 Assumption 4/13/1992 2 0   $600,000
90 Paul Soliai 33 de 10 1 344 6-4 Utah 12/30/1983 9 1 Miami Dolphins / 4th / 108th pick / 2007 $2,906,250
28 Jonathan Stewart 29 RB 13 13 240 5-10 Oregon 3/21/1987 8 5 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 13th pick / 2008 $9,550,000
54 Shaq Thompson 22 LB 14 12 230 6-0 Washington 4/21/1994 1 6 Carolina Panthers / 1st / 25th pick / 2015 $2,001,983
35 Mike Tolbert* 31 fb 16 2 243 5-9 Coastal Carolina 11/23/1985 8 1   $1,475,000
70 Trai Turner* 23 RG 16 16 315 6-3 LSU 6/14/1993 2 8 Carolina Panthers / 3rd / 92nd pick / 2014 $753,620
14 Joe Webb 30   14 0 231 6-4 Ala-Birmingham 11/14/1986 6 0 Minnesota Vikings / 6th / 199th pick / 2010 $860,000
No. Player  Age Pos G GS Wt Ht College/Univ BirthDate Yrs AV Drafted (tm/rnd/yr) Salary
75 Larry Webster 26   1 0 252 6-6 Bloomsburg 2/14/1990 2 0 Detroit Lions / 4th / 136th pick / 2014 $30,882
62 Ryan Wendell 30   1 0 275 6-2 Fresno St. 3/4/1986 7 0   $260,294
43 Fozzy Whittaker 27   16 0 205 5-10 Texas 2/2/1989 4 3   $725,000
60 Daryl Williams 24 RT 13 10 330 6-6 Oklahoma 8/31/1992 1 5 Carolina Panthers / 4th / 102nd pick / 2015 $664,280
21 Teddy Williams 28   3 0 210 6-1 Texas-San Antonio 7/3/1988 5 0   $1,010,000
26 Daryl Worley 21 RCB 16 11 215 6-1 West Virginia 2/22/1995 Rook 5 Carolina Panthers / 3rd / 77th pick / 2016 $645,921
61 David Yankey 24   6 0 315 6-6 Stanford 1/18/1992 2 0 Minnesota Vikings / 5th / 145th pick / 2014 $185,292
25 Lou Young 25   6 0 205 6-0 Georgia Tech 10/9/1991 2 0   $211,764

 

KK(whos Im sure is on the block) , Boston who got cut and came back,  wavier claim Manhertz, and a couple ST guys.

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11 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

Frankly, there needs to be more change not less at Panthers HQ, if you know what I mean.

I think I have an idea :thinking:

On the topic: Honestly, you shouldn't.

The team I watched last season was a disaster. I wouldn't want to "recognize" that team again.

Now, is the current team in flux? heck yeah, it is. Am I confident in the direction we're going? Not really, at least not yet anyway.

But given the choice, would I want to go back to what wee were before.

No.

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