A kinda serious, way too long question about Teddy.

[CPcavedweller]

1 hour ago, *FreeFua* said:

For Tua, Love or Herbert to sit and learn from.

Its the only thing I can think of that would make this signing make sense in the slightest 

If we could not draft Love that would be great. Herbert or Tua would be fine but no Love, no Love, no Love. It's better to not have Love and lose than to have Love and still lose. 

[Pantherzack179812]

57 minutes ago, thennek said:

They signed Teddy because Joe Brady worked with him in New Orleans and believes he will play well in his offense. He certainly is better than Grier or Allen. And the Panthers, for whatever reason, are no longer committed to Cam. 

Tanking a season to draft a player is not a guarantee. There have been a lot of first round QB busts in the NFL. 

Maybe Cam talking before them on the media committing to staying, flipping them off on Instagram, and putting Rhule in a bad position by talking about commitment on Combine day might've had something to do with it. 

Honestly, sounds to me like the staff got sick of the circus. 

You don't get extensions by playing with the media, that's why Cam has no job here... Just my opinion.

[rippadonn]

5 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Maybe Cam talking before them on the media committing to staying, flipping them off on Instagram, and putting Rhule in a bad position by talking about commitment on Combine day might've had something to do with it. 

Honestly, sounds to me like the staff got sick of the circus. 

You don't get extensions by playing with the media, that's why Cam has no job here... Just my opinion.

It was over way before the video, thus the video.

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To answer your question, no clue. 

Are you referring to yourself or the Panthers? 

[thefuzz]

Honestly, no good answers.

This team is so frustrating.

[XOBlackxJokerOX]

What really is confusing is that over the years, Cam has changed his game. From the strictly Air Coryell offense he had under Chud, to a hybrid college/Coryell offense under Shula, to Norvs dink and dunk style. So why couldn't Cam fit in Joe Brady's offense? Teddy isn't known for pushing the ball upfield and I'm sure most have seen his average depth of throw to be 6.1 yards. If we were going to move on and knew for sure what we were moving on from, that'd be one thing but to assume before he even gets a chance to deservedly prove it? That's just wow to me. I honestly don't like the Bridgewater signing at all and wish we would've went in a different direction. I honestly don't like his game and those 5 games with the Saints isn't a big enough sample size to give him a three year contract.

[musicman]

Nothing is guaranteed. What happens if Trevor blows out a knee next year?  With Teddy, they have a known commodity that was a 1st round draft pick on the rise until he got hurt. He's rounding back into form and has worked  with OC Brady before (with delayed OTAs this is important). Smart move. Go with what you know and can control. 

There are too many reasons why they moved on from Cam and almost all not Cam's fault. His health is the biggest but why would he want to play with a rebuilding team and lose and get banged up with no security and why would the Panthers give him security with not knowing he could hold up? It's a lose-lose situation. I love Cam and truth is, the Panthers did too. BUT, they didn't know what they are gonna get and with Teddy, they know what they got. If they draft a QB this year or next, they've got time to develop him and if he doesn't, they still have a good QB. Build around him. And if they don't draft a QB this year, build around Teddy for now and win as a team, not just a superstar QB. 

TB wanted Bridgewater until Brady became reality. Maybe the Colts did too as they didn't sign Rivers until after we got him. We had to make a move. This is called controlling your path with decisions based on what you know and can control, not the unknown or hope for will happen. 

[Mister]

19 hours ago, thefuzz said:

I, for the most part, only care about what is good for the team as a whole, and what specific moves the team should make to give us a better shot at winning a Lombardi in the future.

I do like some players more than others, and I'm not a big fan of seeing them in other uniforms....TD, Jake, Stew, Kalil, Cam, Peppers, etc...but I'm certainly not a diehard fan of single players.

With that said, I did/do think that the very best direction for the team to take was to make the very worst of 2020.  Clear out overpaid guys, clear out the cap completely, sign a couple of our core important players (James and Moton), acquire as much draft capitol as possible, draft heavily toward the lines (especially offensive), and give out very few back loaded contracts.

In other words, I wanted to give this coach, and wishfully new front office all the tools it needed to win a Lombardi over the next 5/6 years.  In my opinion, the very best way to accomplish that is to have a good to great quarterback on a rookie deal, a good team around him, and some cap flexibility to make necessary moves to push you over the top once you get there.

The Panthers found themselves in this exact position the moment they decided to move on from Cam.  They knew they were going to have a historically bad defense.  They know what they have in Grier and Kyle.  They can easily look at the roster and the cap and make the moves to clear out the older guys, and dump all the money this offseason.  Hell, by the incompetence of the front office, the perfect scenario was staring them in the face. 

Historically bad, with a pair of possible generational QB's in the following years NFL draft.

So I write all of that to ask why would the team sign Teddy Bridgewater?

He could be the next Drew Brees , player that showed high upside that got crushed by injuries . Teddy Bridgewater was highly respected when he first came out . The injury set him back and he finally had a chance with the saints and were paying a decent price for our next franchise qb. Having a need for drafting a qb going into the draft is dangerous and leading up to a team over valuing a qb and over drafting which can lead to busts . The thing is not to be desperate for a qb we can find a qb in a later round and see if it works out 

[SOJA]

I maintain that the Panthers are really in love with either Tua, Herbert or a mystery QB that they are 99% sure they are getting at 7. 

 

That's the only way any of the poo they've done makes any sense, and why a full reboot isn't totally necessary because we can clear our books and build like hell around the rookie next year and the year after. 

 

I maintain this is a bad strategy because I don't really love any the QBs this year besides Tua and he is a huge injury risk 

[Mister]

Just now, SOJA said:

I maintain that the Panthers are really in love with either Tua, Herbert or a mystery QB that they are 99% sure they are getting at 7. 

 

That's the only way in of the poo they've done makes any sense, and why a full reboot isn't totally necessary because we can clear our books and build like hell around the rookie next year and the year after. 

 

I maintain this is a bad strategy because I don't really love any the QBs this year besides Tua and he is a huge injury risk 

I could agree with this as well . I think we’re high on tua and Herbert 

[Wyank]

18 hours ago, thefuzz said:

That's gonna be the argument from most of the "tanking doesn't work" crowd.  In a normal draft, say the one with Watson, Trubisky, and Mahomes, that would be correct, you don't have to have a top 3 pick to get your guy.

However, you didn't have the standout QBs like you do with Lawrence and Fields....and Luck back in the day.  You aren't going to be able to trade up for those guys, assuming they have college seasons like we expect.

I just don't get it....you weren't even tanking, you would just be able to use one of our favorite sayings around here...."maybe the answer is on the roster" and trot out your 3rd round QB from last season.

Luck didn't exactly set the NFL on fire and ended up not even the best QB drafted in his draft class.  Multiple QBs out performed him from his draft class.  He's probably a bad example for tanking for a QB working.  

[Little Goody Two Shoes]

19 hours ago, *FreeFua* said:

For Tua, Love or Herbert to sit and learn from.

Its the only thing I can think of that would make this signing make sense in the slightest 

This is a reasonable possibility.

The other that I can think of is maybe it's very difficult to dig out of being a complete train wreck. If the team is abysmal on both sides of the ball then fans are less likely to attend games (and buy tickets). Free agents are less likely to sign next year (and subsequent years if that trend continues). Potential draft picks may make it known they don't want to play for a franchise like that. Granted being only, a little bad or mediocre doesn't get you a top 5 pick and Trevor Lawrence but it may be they felt they had to give fans and players a little hope.

[SOJA]

1 minute ago, Mister said:

I could agree with this as well . I think we’re high on tua and Herbert 

further I think the draft (barring any trade ups) is going to break in favor of one of those two guys being there

Cin 1- Burrow

Was 2- Young

Det 3- Okudah

NYG 4- Simmons

Mia 5- Herbert (I think the dolphins love herbert and am kind of willing this into existence) 

LAC 6- OT

CAR- TUA

 

I have even more evidence of this. There was a rumor swirling around a week ago that Rivera "loves Tua". What better way to get back at your former team than teasing you love the prospect you know they want?

[SOJA]

I called my shot weeks ago this was the plan all along, how we've gone about it was horrible and we terribly mismanaged Cam's departure, but it does make *some sense* if you again LOVE those prospects and again are pretty sure one will be there. 

 

Tepper is DESPERATE to put a stamp on this franchise, he wants his guy at QB. Let's just all pray we make the right choice.