The Final Numbers: 3 years, 63 million dollars for Teddy Bridgewater

[TheSpecialJuan]

1 hour ago, Vagrant said:

i think a lot of people are going to be surprised by how effective bridgewater will be by the numbers in this offense. he plays a very simple style that's very hard to master and it's putting the short and intermediate throws as the priority and taking what they give you. if the system that joe brady wants is similar to what they run for drew brees, they picked the right guy for it. this won't be a shot-taking offense. it will be methodical and chain moving. the goal of offenses like the saints have is to get the ball into the hands of the playmakers in the most literal sense. reduce variance by taking some of the risk/reward out of the equation with short and intermediate passes instead of the high variance deep routes that result in either touchdowns, incompletions, or interceptions. the analytics crowd values time of possession and high completion rates. offenses that hold on to the ball keep their defense off the field. our group seems to be moving in that direction. bridgewater is a highly accurate passer. what he did, or more accurately wasn't able to do, in minnesota was a result of the fact that they couldn't keep him upright. the offensive line there during his tenure was putrid. they attempted to play to his strengths with a high volume, low yards per attempt kind of offense but they couldn't protect him and to be honest the pass catchers even on the 11-5 team were pretty crummy. you need a lot of sure handed targets with twitchy athletic ability to run high volume passing offenses and they didn't really have that formula and not to put it all on them, bridgewater probably wasn't quite ready for it. you have to see a lot at the line and make a lot of adjustments with smaller windows and shorter routes. the style is strongly favored for success in the league now. the chiefs, 49ers, rams, and bears all run variations of the WCO. 

when cam's arm was healthy, he was one of those guys that depended upon success on high variance throws down field, because he wasn't incredibly accurate short to intermediate. he isn't a timing route kind of quarterback. he wants to put air under the ball. to have success in a system that's basically a bit of a west coast offense style, you have to have a fairly egoless quarterback that isn't going to gamble at the wrong time. i don't think they believed cam was going to be able to make the throws they needed for their system to work and wasn't going to be able to keep himself from extending plays instead of taking the checkdown. he's not the quarterback you want if your plan is to dink and dunk. there's a reason that the saints themselves wanted bridgewater. they recognized his efficiency as potentially useful to them in a scenario where they had to replicate drew brees and he was perfect for it. what he showed in his 5 starts was a blueprint for a copycat brees offense, which shares many similarities with WCO that has trended back into relevance. i would almost be certain that our offense will be some form of high volume passing attack. bridgewater is going to put the ball on people in open space and that's great news for our playmakers. DJ Moore in particular. they're going to throw at him 150 times next season. i would also imagine they're heavily, heavily in on eric ebron or another of the top free agent TE. just a hunch. but i honestly don't feel they're making these moves with the intent to tank. they want to compete, but they wanted to do it differently. 

jesus !

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

A few months ago, I'd have said no. More recently, I'd have said yes.

How quickly people forget that he took a pretty team friendly deal in his last contract to stay here.

[Mr. Scot]

10 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

How quickly people forget that he took a pretty team friendly deal in his last contract to stay here.

His next contract is pretty likely to be his last one, thus it would have been highly unlikely that he'd take another one.

[kungfoodude]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

His next contract is pretty likely to be his last one, thus it would have been highly unlikely that he'd take another one.

That is an assumption, however. I also don't think he views his next contract as his last one. 

[Mr. Scot]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

That is an assumption, however. I also don't think he views his next contract as his last one. 

That's also an assumption.

Thing is though, you can find plenty of guys in the NFL who have taken one team friendly deal, and even that often comes with an unspoken agreement that "we'll pay you next time".

Outside of the unique economics of Tom Brady and the Patriots, I couldn't think of too many guys who have taken multiple team-friendly deals.

I don't doubt that Newton wanted to stay here, but if he stayed beyond 2020 he wasn't going to be playing for the love of children and puppies. He was going to need to be paid an appropriate amount of money.

The Panthers apparently are not prepared to pony up.

[GoPanthers123]

TB. is a game manager for a well run saints team.  And they didn’t want him.  I would take Cam or take Allen this year, draft a QB next year. That was obviously the answer, can anyone justify TB signing?  

 

 

[lumbeecheraw75]

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1240125245538828290?s=20

[Iron Saint]

10 hours ago, mbarbour21 said:

Not excited about parting from Cam, but I think Bridgewater outplayed Brees last year.... at least late.

Um, no.

Bridgewater’s 5 starts: 115/165, 69.7 completion %, 1205 yards, 9 TD, 2 INT, 103.7 QB rating, 7.3 YPA

Brees’ last 5 starts: 122/168, 72.6 completion %, 1372 yards, 16 TD, 0 INT, 128.4 QB rating, 8.2 YPA

8 hours ago, Montsta said:

I hope Teddy balls out and refuses to give any footballs away to any fans and just hoards them in a pile each game like toilet paper. 

LMAOOOO, I’m here for it. 

27 minutes ago, GoPanthers123 said:

TB. is a game manager for a well run saints team.  And they didn’t want him.  I would take Cam or take Allen this year, draft a QB next year. That was obviously the answer, can anyone justify TB signing?  

False. If we didn’t want him we wouldn’t have traded a 3rd round pick for him and we definitely wouldn’t have re-signed him before last season. Had there been less interest from other teams this year, we would’ve re-signed him again.

Had Brees hung them up after last season like he allegedly planned, Bridgewater 100% would’ve been re-signed.

 

[SOJA]

28 minutes ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1240125245538828290?s=20

this makes me feel better

[jfra78]

32 minutes ago, lumbeecheraw75 said:

https://twitter.com/JasonLaCanfora/status/1240125245538828290?s=20

Thats a really good deal on our part

[Malt Liquor]

41 minutes ago, Iron Saint said:

Um, no.

Bridgewater’s 5 starts: 115/165, 69.7 completion %, 1205 yards, 9 TD, 2 INT, 103.7 QB rating, 7.3 YPA

Brees’ last 5 starts: 122/168, 72.6 completion %, 1372 yards, 16 TD, 0 INT, 128.4 QB rating, 8.2 YPA

LMAOOOO, I’m here for it. 

False. If we didn’t want him we wouldn’t have traded a 3rd round pick for him and we definitely wouldn’t have re-signed him before last season. Had there been less interest from other teams this year, we would’ve re-signed him again.

Had Brees hung them up after last season like he allegedly planned, Bridgewater 100% would’ve been re-signed.

 

Thank you Iron Saint for being honest. The Panthers fan base is just emotional right now at the moment.

[kungfoodude]

4 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

That's also an assumption.

Thing is though, you can find plenty of guys in the NFL who have taken one team friendly deal, and even that often comes with an unspoken agreement that "we'll pay you next time".

Outside of the unique economics of Tom Brady and the Patriots, I couldn't think of too many guys who have taken multiple team-friendly deals.

I don't doubt that Newton wanted to stay here, but if he stayed beyond 2020 he wasn't going to be playing for the love of children and puppies. He was going to need to be paid an appropriate amount of money.

The Panthers apparently are not prepared to pony up.

There are also lots of assumptions in your thought process. Lol.

Ultimately, none of us know. Only Cam and the team do. I am pretty confident in my "Cam believing his next contract isn't his last" take but we won't know that for sure until years from now(provided his career isn't over due to injuries).

[ForJimmy]

So it’s basically a 2 year deal that we can trade year 3. It looks like we are definitely drafting a QB this year or next.

[Mr. Scot]

55 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

There are also lots of assumptions in your thought process. Lol.

Ultimately, none of us know. Only Cam and the team do. I am pretty confident in my "Cam believing his next contract isn't his last" take but we won't know that for sure until years from now(provided his career isn't over due to injuries).

Whether or not he believed it was his last contract, it's extremely doubtful the next one was going to be "team friendly".

Check the discussion in the "breaking point" thread for more.