New Panthers QB Teddy Bridgewater's 6.1 average depth of throw was easily lowest in the NFL last season

[Mister]

teddy is a franchise qb , above average pocket passer , good decision maker , gets rid of the ball quick . hes a better passer then cam . cam is a better athlete but the injuries took a toll on him .

[JARROD]

 

I guess we had to go get a checkdown king

[Car123]

Has Bridgewater attempted a deep ball in his career? I was looking at his highlights and none of the balls were longer than 25 yards down the field.

[LinvilleGorge]

1 hour ago, Mister said:

teddy is a franchise qb , above average pocket passer , good decision maker , gets rid of the ball quick . hes a better passer then cam . cam is a better athlete but the injuries took a toll on him .

Cam Newton nearly had as many TD passes in 2015 as Teddy Bridgewater has had in his entire career. Bridgewater has never thrown for more than 14 TDs in a season. Cam Newton has never thrown for less than 18 in any season in which he played in at least 14 games, including seasons when his throwing arm was obviously compromised. 

I have no idea where people are coming up with the idea that Bridgewater is a better passer than Cam Newton. Even if Cam's shoulder is nowhere near what it once was, he's likely still a better passer than Teddy Bridgewater. Cam's 2018 season when he could barely throw a football more than 25 yards would've still been by far Bridgewater's career year.

[steven8989]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Cam Newton nearly had as many TD passes in 2015 as Teddy Bridgewater has had in his entire career. Bridgewater has never thrown for more than 14 TDs in a season. Cam Newton has never thrown for less than 18 in any season in which he played in at least 14 games, including seasons when his throwing arm was obviously compromised. 

I have no idea where people are coming up with the idea that Bridgewater is a better passer than Cam Newton. Even if Cam's shoulder is nowhere near what it once was, he's likely still a better passer than Teddy Bridgewater. Cam's 2018 season when he could barely throw a football more than 25 yards would've still been by far Bridgewater's career year.

You will see soon enough

[KaseKlosed]

On 3/17/2020 at 12:57 PM, Jeremy Igo said:

Let's all bash our new QB!!! 

You bashed Cam. Shet your pie hole 

[lightsout]

10 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Cam Newton nearly had as many TD passes in 2015 as Teddy Bridgewater has had in his entire career. Bridgewater has never thrown for more than 14 TDs in a season. Cam Newton has never thrown for less than 18 in any season in which he played in at least 14 games, including seasons when his throwing arm was obviously compromised. 

I have no idea where people are coming up with the idea that Bridgewater is a better passer than Cam Newton. Even if Cam's shoulder is nowhere near what it once was, he's likely still a better passer than Teddy Bridgewater. Cam's 2018 season when he could barely throw a football more than 25 yards would've still been by far Bridgewater's career year.

I don't think anybody will argue that Teddy is the playmaker that Cam is. Nobody should anyway. Nobody should argue that Teddy is the kind of QB that is going to be putting up impressive numbers. That's not him. Cam when healthy put up numbers. Fact.

Teddy is more consistent and steady as a passer. This is a fact. Career completion percentage and rating both being higher shows that. Teddy isn't a risk taker with the football, he's not going to make the kind of mistakes that Cam makes while throwing and that's because Teddy isn't going to take as many chances with the football. Cam took chances, and a lot of that came off the strength of his arm and trying to fit balls into windows that he probably shouldn't. Sometimes it worked, others it was incomplete or intercepted. 

Teddy's timing throws are demonstrably better. Cam had it at times, but not as consistently. It's where he was starting to improve before the injuries, so maybe this is moot based on that. But there are good reasons why people say that Bridgewater is a better passer.

[Car123]

46 minutes ago, lightsout said:

I don't think anybody will argue that Teddy is the playmaker that Cam is. Nobody should anyway. Nobody should argue that Teddy is the kind of QB that is going to be putting up impressive numbers. That's not him. Cam when healthy put up numbers. Fact.

Teddy is more consistent and steady as a passer. This is a fact. Career completion percentage and rating both being higher shows that. Teddy isn't a risk taker with the football, he's not going to make the kind of mistakes that Cam makes while throwing and that's because Teddy isn't going to take as many chances with the football. Cam took chances, and a lot of that came off the strength of his arm and trying to fit balls into windows that he probably shouldn't. Sometimes it worked, others it was incomplete or intercepted. 

Teddy's timing throws are demonstrably better. Cam had it at times, but not as consistently. It's where he was starting to improve before the injuries, so maybe this is moot based on that. But there are good reasons why people say that Bridgewater is a better passer.

14 tds 12 ints

He’s more consistent at being a worse passer.

[lightsout]

2 minutes ago, Car123 said:

14 tds 12 ints

He’s more consistent at being a worse passer.

Stop. You're using his rookie year. Cam was 21 TDs and 17 INTs his rookie year.

More telling stat? Percentage of each per pass thrown.

Cam: 4.6% TD and 2.7% INT
Teddy: 3.6% and 2.3%

What does it show? That Teddy takes fewer chances and thus, doesn't put up as many positive or negative numbers. He's not the same type of QB, for better and worse. He's not going to be in the MVP discussion or even in the top 10 QB discussion. However, he's steadier than Cam and numbers bear that out.

Teddy's 2 years in NO? 4.6% TD and 1.4% INT.

[WUnderhill]

We got a worse Chad Pennington.

[CatTower]

I don't think people are accounting for how well Bridgewater fits into our system.  What is the point in having a deep ball QB when our strength lies in the short yards with our speedy, dynamic receivers?  Would you rather toss deep balls to Moore and Samuel all game at a 10% catch rate or throw 5 yarders that result in first downs?  The offensive line is so far from being able to hold for a long enough period of time to throw deep balls anyhow.  This is a move that gives us a fighting chance while we build up some of our weak spots.

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, CatTower said:

I don't think people are accounting for how well Bridgewater fits into our system.  What is the point in having a deep ball QB when our strength lies in the short yards with our speedy, dynamic receivers?  Would you rather toss deep balls to Moore and Samuel all game at a 10% catch rate or throw 5 yarders that result in first downs?  The offensive line is so far from being able to hold for a long enough period of time to throw deep balls anyhow.  This is a move that gives us a fighting chance while we build up some of our weak spots.

Well we did have a dink and dunk offense in 2019, and we finished on an 8 game losing streak.

Not saying that will happen again mind you, but if we are going to be even remotely competitive in this division with the likes of Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan, we will have to be able to push the ball downfield. No way around that elephant in the room.

[CatTower]

10 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Well we did have a dink and dunk offense in 2019, and we finished on an 8 game losing streak.

Not saying that will happen again mind you, but if we are going to be even remotely competitive in this division with the likes of Tom Brady, Drew Brees, and Matt Ryan, we will have to be able to push the ball downfield. No way around that elephant in the room.

It sure didn't help that Kyle Allen would fumble the ball when a gust of wind hit him the wrong way.  You want to beat high scoring offenses?  You keep them off the field.  

[RASTAN66]

Bridgewater is going to break out...upside akin to Russell Wilson.

Big Time Teddy has a good chance to be the biggest QB related story in 2020.

This is going to be fun to watch!