Panthers To Allow Cam Newton To Seek Trade

[mrcompletely11]

Wow.  I guess nobody is buying what cam is selling in those videos.

 

His shoulder must be shot.

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Wow.  I guess nobody is buying what cam is selling in those videos.

 

His shoulder must be shot.

I don't know if his shoulder is shot, but that's the problem. Nobody else does either. I strongly suspect anyone who does sign him is going to do so on a "prove it" contract.

The "little commitment" that he talked about wanting probably isn't going to happen. His best bet for that might have been the Panthers given his history here, but they've already answered "no".

[Navy_football]

1 minute ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Wow.  I guess nobody is buying what cam is selling in those videos.

 

His shoulder must be shot.

To a degree. 

I think teams are turned off by Cam being Cam. Being in the DC area, I don't hear the local rhetoric in regards to Cam. In the past couple of days, the local radio station has been discussing Cam coming to DC. It actually would make sense if he's healthy. Shortened OTAs, Cam already knows the offense, and Haskins is not the best at preparation (couple that with learning a new offense). 

The point is most callers that were against him coming noted factors that had nothing to do with his onfield play. They actually admitted he be the best QB they've had in some time, but the other stuff would hurt the team more than the onfield play helped - perceptions.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I don't know if his shoulder is shot, but that's the problem. Nobody else does either. I strongly suspect anyone who does sign him is going to do so on a "prove it" contract.

The "little commitment" that he talked about wanting probably isn't going to happen. His best bet for that might have been the Panthers given his history here, but they've already answered "no".

Serious question, but why hasnt he had a physical yet?  I mean damn his shoulder should be okay by now.  Cant they at least work him out throwing the ball?  Something seems off from the Rapaport tweet early on to Jourdan saying he was going to pass a physical to now.  There is more to the story here.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Cam might go unsigned for a while once we do release him.

[Mr. Scot]

15 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Serious question, but why hasnt he had a physical yet?  I mean damn his shoulder should be okay by now.  Cant they at least work him out throwing the ball?  Something seems off from the Rapaport tweet early on to Jourdan saying he was going to pass a physical to now.  There is more to the story here.

Rodrigue's sources were telling her that Newton could pass a physical as soon as March. Rappaport said June at the earliest. Obviously, you've gotta figure their reports were coming from different people.

The Panthers public position all along was that nothing could be decided until they knew whether he was healthy or not, so either they believe he's healthy now or that whole idea has been tossed out the window. Heck, maybe it never really mattered.

Someone suggested that the long, drawn out "is he healthy or not" talk from the Panthers might ultimately have hurt Newton's position. There's an argument to be made for that.

[mrcompletely11]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Rodrigue's sources were telling her that Newton could pass a physical as soon as March. Rappaport said June at the earliest. Obviously, you've gotta figure their reports were coming from different people.

The Panthers public position all along was that nothing could be decided until they knew whether he was healthy or not, so either they believe he's healthy now or that whole idea has been tossed out the window. Heck, maybe it never really mattered.

Someone suggested that the long, drawn out "is he healthy or not" talk from the Panthers might ultimately have hurt Newton's position. There's an argument to be made for that.

I dont think any of what Tepper said, Rhule said etc hurt his value after I read the tweet about the bears.  Cam is not going to be able to hide the fact if he isnt healthy and it seems like conventional wisdom around the league is that he is not.  So their options were limited and it looks like Rhule didnt want to risk having to trot out allen/wg in the event they rolled with cam only to find out he is done.   I think with Teddy we are still going to lose games but at least we can look like an NFL team in the process.

[Happy Panther]

31 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Serious question, but why hasnt he had a physical yet?  I mean damn his shoulder should be okay by now.  Cant they at least work him out throwing the ball?  Something seems off from the Rapaport tweet early on to Jourdan saying he was going to pass a physical to now.  There is more to the story here.

I think physicals aren't allowed right now anyway.

[mrcompletely11]

2 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

I think physicals aren't allowed right now anyway.

That would make sense but at some point cam is going to have to pass a physical so why would anyone trade for him now? 

[Tbe]

4 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

I think physicals aren't allowed right now anyway.

I heard physicals from 3rd part docs are allowed. So are conditional signings. Example: Your contract will be void if you don’t pass a physical after these restrictions are lifted.

[Mr. Scot]

6 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

I think physicals aren't allowed right now anyway.

They're allowed if teams and players can agree on an independent physician (that's what Brady's doing).

A physical would probably be a good thing for Newton right now...if he passed it.

[Happy Panther]

13 minutes ago, Tbe said:

I heard physicals from 3rd part docs are allowed. So are conditional signings. Example: Your contract will be void if you don’t pass a physical after these restrictions are lifted.

Gotcha.

[Teddy Time]

While facing Tom Brady twice a year doesn't sound great, if the Bucs hadn't signed him I'd say there's a pretty fair chance Cam Newton might've ended up a Buc.  which wouldn't have been fun for a lot of reasons.  Since they had to pull the trigger on Teddy, killed trade leverage and Cam being released is seeming more likely by the hour.  Faced with the prospect of missing out on Brady and Teddy with Winston on the porch with his arms folded tapping his foot, Cam Newton could've been Bruce Arians' guy.  There's your silver lining to Tom Brady being a Buc...

[Brooklyn 3.0]

Nobody is signing Cam, Jameis, or Kaep this season. Maybe they'll come in for an injury, but the lot will not have a team come kick off.