DE Stephen Weatherly /panthers

[45catfan]

2 minutes ago, Basbear said:

If Weatherly or Burris(another one, huh) goes on to have a career/1st team all-pro year the comp pick changes too. Along with the money; snaps, stats, all factor in too. The formula is bizarre.  

Yeah, that's purely based off annual money.  Annual salary figures generally hold up as best indicator of comp pick round, but not always as you just noted.

[Black&BlueBubba]

Shaw Lawson got 10 mil a year for playing full time and only getting 6.5 sacks.  Money could be right in the ball park for a part time guy that got 3.5 sacks.  

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

Bruns sat every snap we played in the 4-3. We will also need a better MLB than Miller. It would make total sense if Luke was here but not much since he's gone. I mean it is what it is. We are going to suck one way or another. Just a bigger rebuild going to a 4-3.

And he played in a 4-3 3 years in college... Stop typing.!@

[ellis]

 

[stbugs]

4 minutes ago, Basbear said:

If Weatherly or Burris(another one, huh) goes on to have a career/1st team all-pro year the comp pick changes too. Along with the money; snaps, stats, all factor in too. The formula is bizarre.  

Not really. Those can add a bit but the forecasts, which are usually right, go by salary. It’s way too subjective to use the other stuff. Also, I think it’s way less of a formula and more of a estimate based on salary and then based on trying to get to 32 picks and an even spread across the 3rd to 7th. I’d bet the “other” things are more about tiebreakers for order in a round and possibly deciding who gets the last pick in each round.

Honestly, if you go by salary tiers from the prior years it’s pretty much 95-100% right. One of the salary cap web sites is pretty dead on every year. 

[45catfan]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

Bruns sat every snap we played in the 4-3. We will also need a better MLB than Miller. It would make total sense if Luke was here but not much since he's gone. I mean it is what it is. We are going to suck one way or another. Just a bigger rebuild going to a 4-3.

It's better to learn form our errors and scrap the 3-4 now than giving it the ole college try for another draft.  Yeah, it sucks, but we are essentially talking about two guys.  I think Haynes was a bad pick from word go.  He Had Everette Brown written all over him, just not nearly as high.  Miller was a day 3 pick too.   If we can salvage Burns, then Ron's experiment wouldn't have done too much long-term damage.

[kungfoodude]

23 minutes ago, WoahW said:

True but do we really believe this guy would get 6 mil a year with anyone but Hurney? I mean Brockers just got $10 mil a year with 10x the production 

It's possible. We really don't know what the actual market for him was at all. 

[Snake]

6 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

And he played in a 4-3 3 years in college... Stop typing.!@

253 lbs and he bulked up to that... Did I mention he sat every 4-3 down. Maybe get the poo out of your ears. 

[Black&BlueBubba]

8 minutes ago, ellis said:

 

Nice versatility!!!   Thanks Ellis for what you do!  

[45catfan]

Two FA DEs?  Hmmmm...I think I might stop mocking a DE.

[WOW!!]

1 minute ago, Snake said:

253 lbs and he bulked up to that... Did I mention he sat every 4-3 down. Maybe get the poo out of your ears. 

So the fug what?? He had 2 starting quality players better against the run in front of him...  So like many other rookies he was a backup... And reality check this signing doesn't mean we're going to a 4-3 exclusively.. The guy can play a 3-4 as well..

But it is stupid to think a 6'5 250lb guy who played DE in college can't play it in the NFL.. Especially when smaller guys have done it...

Oh and just to get this out there... 1 full NFL offseason with NFL training and nutrition staff.. Who's to say how big he is now?? Miller to..

[LinvilleGorge]

I think we significantly overpaid, but I hope he's great.

[MHS831]

19 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Two FA DEs?  Hmmmm...I think I might stop mocking a DE.

Could not really do it well anyway without knowing for sure about the 4-3. AND the draft is not good at DE.   I feel happy about DE..

[Basbear]

@ellis you better get back to spamming that herniay pic! This is the time and youre slacking brah!