Thomas Davis released

[Matt62881]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

You’d be wrong. Luke was extremely athletic as well as being a productive LB and likely a great interview. It’s like people who try to downplay Olsen’s athletic ability when he had a great combine even by today’s numbers where even an OT like Becton is training with multi-gold medal winning sprinter Michael Johnson.

Based on the 2020 combine (numbers continue to get better overall every year), Luke would have been 2nd in bench press, 10th in 40 (.06 from top 5), 6th in vertical jump (1 inch from 3rd), 10th in broad jump (3 inches from 5th), 3rd in 3 cone (0.01 from 2nd) and 1st in short shuttle. He would have been top 10 in everything and top 3 in half of the measurements.

Acting like he’s just a film junky is silly. Especially since I compared him to 2020 results. Kuechly was 240+ and in 2012, he was 3rd fastest, not 10th like his time would be this year. Heck, at 12 pounds heavier, Kuechly did better than Davis in every drill except the short shuttle. Kuechly was more athletic than Davis overall.

That's pretty crazy, I honestly just didnt feel like digging the results up but what popped to me watching him was his stamina and maybe vertical. I really thought his advantages came from his all world first step and play diagnoses. Really sucks his body just didnt hold up to him playing 100%. I said in another thread he had approximately 1100 tackles to Ray Lewis's 1500 and he did it in half the time. Phenomenal. That brings into context of just how he was able to even out himself in position to make some of the plays on the ball such as vs Julio, just being there was something special. I wasn't looking at combine numbers back then, with those it amazes me he even made it to us.

 

[Matt62881]

1 hour ago, stbugs said:

You’d be wrong. Luke was extremely athletic as well as being a productive LB and likely a great interview. It’s like people who try to downplay Olsen’s athletic ability when he had a great combine even by today’s numbers where even an OT like Becton is training with multi-gold medal winning sprinter Michael Johnson.

Based on the 2020 combine (numbers continue to get better overall every year), Luke would have been 2nd in bench press, 10th in 40 (.06 from top 5), 6th in vertical jump (1 inch from 3rd), 10th in broad jump (3 inches from 5th), 3rd in 3 cone (0.01 from 2nd) and 1st in short shuttle. He would have been top 10 in everything and top 3 in half of the measurements.

Acting like he’s just a film junky is silly. Especially since I compared him to 2020 results. Kuechly was 240+ and in 2012, he was 3rd fastest, not 10th like his time would be this year. Heck, at 12 pounds heavier, Kuechly did better than Davis in every drill except the short shuttle. Kuechly was more athletic than Davis overall.

Wow, you sparked my curiosity so I went and looked at combine numbers, Luke was top 15% in every category and alot better then that in many. Suprising to me is Shaqs Combine was very underwhelming, I was under the impression he was super athletic but the only thing he posted good in (top 15%) was his shuttle.

[stbugs]

9 hours ago, Matt62881 said:

Wow, you sparked my curiosity so I went and looked at combine numbers, Luke was top 15% in every category and alot better then that in many. Suprising to me is Shaqs Combine was very underwhelming, I was under the impression he was super athletic but the only thing he posted good in (top 15%) was his shuttle.

There’s a reason why he was a top 10 pick. I was comparing him to 2019’s numbers too and it seems every year the combine training and numbers get a little better. I think we all see the on field defensive genius and forget how athletic he is. That’s why he’s not just a hard working guessing right LB, he’s one of the best ever.

[pantherclaw]

On 3/14/2020 at 8:18 AM, musicman said:

How about, signing TD might get some fans to show up next season and see a team we all know is not going to be that good.

One year, vet minimum? He gets to end his career with the team he's loved and with a city that loves him. Help give some leadership to young guys and be a hell of a rotational player (not a FT starter) as they do want to build the future. 

Sign TD!!!

There is zero reason to bring him back for even 1 year, with this rebuild. 

[Matt62881]

3 hours ago, stbugs said:

There’s a reason why he was a top 10 pick. I was comparing him to 2019’s numbers too and it seems every year the combine training and numbers get a little better. I think we all see the on field defensive genius and forget how athletic he is. That’s why he’s not just a hard working guessing right LB, he’s one of the best ever.

Just my opinion but I think he was the best, there are guys now running 4.4s at lb and still unable to make it to the ball like Luke. Never seen a backer involved in so many plays. He wasn't at 100% the last 2 seasons and still was the best MLB in the game. 

[TheMostInterestingMan]

For a relatively new team compared to the history of the rest of the league, it’s pretty remarkable how many amazing LBers we have had here. 

[Basbear]

20 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Looks like that same determination that motivated him through three major knee rehabs is still there.

 

20 hours ago, Matt62881 said:

I didnt get to watch him last season, did he still have it? Obviously I would think he would have lost some athleticism but lbs do seem to play at a high level longer if they desire. Ray Lewis played for what 16 years? Was looking at stats the other day and it sucks Luke couldnt play a few more as he almost had 1100 tackles and Ray finished with 1500 approximately. With a full career he was on pace for an amazing statline, I'm kind of a stat junkie so it really amazes me what he was doing lol.

I did not watch a charger game last season, but...... I play in a super cereal fantasy football league that uses lots of defensive players. I picked him up and he lead the chargers in tackles. I just didnt want to see him like Willie Mays stumbling around CF playing for the Mets late in his career. I bet hes the oldest LB in league now and was planning to retire at 2018s end. Hes still "healthy", great family, and lots going on. I also dont like people telling others how to live, just confused why he would continue on. 

[SOJA]

How did he play last year for the chargers?

[Matt62881]

54 minutes ago, Basbear said:

 

I did not watch a charger game last season, but...... I play in a super cereal fantasy football league that uses lots of defensive players. I picked him up and he lead the chargers in tackles. I just didnt want to see him like Willie Mays stumbling around CF playing for the Mets late in his career. I bet hes the oldest LB in league now and was planning to retire at 2018s end. Hes still "healthy", great family, and lots going on. I also dont like people telling others how to live, just confused why he would continue on. 

Well he missed several full years of play and if he feels good ( his body ) it's probably hard to put down something you love especially if your still playing like a top 15 lb.

[Basbear]

1 minute ago, Matt62881 said:

Well he missed several full years of play and if he feels good ( his body ) it's probably hard to out down something you love especially if your still playing like a top 15 lb.

Yea he has real love for football, no question. I just want to remember him has the "vick-stopper" and not some 40 year old LB jumping on piles getting tackles. Honestly he is what the modern NFL LB has become, a heavy hard hitting safety. I know that the goat Jerry Rice played in his 40s, until teamS told him no. Honestly if not for roster numbers, Rice could have kept playing. He was a good 4/5 WR but no special teams skills and that doesnt work for 53 man rosters with 46 active game-day. TD could do the same, hed be one hell of ST'er for sure. I hope he doesnt go that route, not my business tho.   

[Mr. Scot]

16 hours ago, SOJA said:

How did he play last year for the chargers?

Not well enough to justify them keeping him.

[t96]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Not well enough to justify them keeping him.

For what it’s worth they overpaid him a ton. 2 years $20.5M... I didn’t watch Chargers games so I don’t know but he could still be a useful player—just not worth $10M.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, t96 said:

For what it’s worth they overpaid him a ton. 2 years $20.5M... I didn’t watch Chargers games so I don’t know but he could still be a useful player—just not worth $10M.

I could see us taking a look if Rivera were still here.

Rhule? Not so much.

[t96]

9 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I could see us taking a look if Rivera were still here.

Rhule? Not so much.

I was just talking in general. It makes no sense at all to even look at him. We’re rebuilding (likely to be mostly from scratch, top to bottom) and he doesn’t really fit in.