I feel very lonely as someone not wanting a top 10 DT.....

[JARROD]

I mean if you can get an Aaron Donald type of game changer maybe,.. but a real Nick Bosa, Julius Peppers type of edge rusher has much more impact.

I still think a true great left tackle, even with the Okung rental coming in would be a better long term pick. 
 

 

[Shocker]

Better get ready for Herbert cuz its coming

[raz]

15 hours ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

Now we can draw some conclusions from our linear regression analysis and the statistical evidence it provides.  The least important aspect of the game from the 2018 season, in terms of leading to wins, was defensive pass yards allowed per game, where we found no correlation.  It was then followed by offensive pass yards per game and offensive rush yards per game, both of which had moderate positive correlations.  Lastly, the most important aspect, and convincing statistic, to winning games in the NFL last season was defensive rush yards allowed per game.

 

its curious that O rushing yards were only moderately positively correlated but D rush yards allowed was the most convincing statistic.  i really don't see how these are both the case.   there really can't be any causation implied at all with these results.  i'm not seeing that the study actually means anything.  i must be missing something.   i'm not asking for anyone to go to length - but what am i missing here?

[top dawg]

I want the BPA, & I kinda doubt it's going to be a DT. 

You don't skip a more talented exclamation point in favor of a less talented question mark, period! 

[mrcompletely11]

I want the best LT at 7.  Enough is enough

[catnip]

Give Thomas Davis a 1yr friendly deal and let him retire as a Panther .  It gives us a veteran LB who still can lay the wood , then draft BPA .  I hope we can trade back for more picks .

[45catfan]

56 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

I want the best LT at 7.  Enough is enough

Even if the best LT isn't the best tackle available? If so, then that's not taking BPA.  Many feel the two RT prospects are a better value than the two LTs.  Becton's combine 40 time is going to make someone reach, hard. He's RAW in pass pro.  Very much like Wirfs, a mauler in the run game when he on the attack, but dude will get eaten alive by the elite pass rushers in the NFL.  

[mrcompletely11]

1 minute ago, 45catfan said:

Even if the best LT isn't the best tackle available? If so, then that's not taking BPA.  Many feel the two RT prospects are a better value than the two LTs.  Becton's combine 40 time is going to make someone reach, hard. He's RAW in pass pro.  Very much like Wirfs, a mauler in the run game when he on the attack, but dude will get eaten alive by the elite pass rushers in the NFL.  

Yes.  I get the bpa strategy but on the flip side that same strategy has gotten us to where we are with the oline.  We haven't properly addressed it in years.  If it's slightly "reaching" for a player so be it but if we stay at 7 I bet we have our pick of the litter with the lineman.  Enough is enough protect the damn quarterback 

[thefuzz]

16 hours ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

The way I see it is like this. 

 

The trenches need to get younger and meaner. Depending on  how the board shakes up...He could be the best option to help this team be competitive next year. Unless something crazy happens and a top 3 talent drops down to us, He's a solid choice. You can never go wrong going Dline in the first. At least that has been Marty's Forte with the track record of Dlinemen he's drafted. 

You ever seen Marty's record on defensive tackles?

[45catfan]

4 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Yes.  I get the bpa strategy but on the flip side that same strategy has gotten us to where we are with the oline.  We haven't properly addressed it in years.  If it's slightly "reaching" for a player so be it but if we stay at 7 I bet we have our pick of the litter with the lineman.  Enough is enough protect the damn quarterback 

There's too many questions with Thomas and Becton for me to take either of them at #7.  Neither are polished in pass pro.  We took a guy last year that needed some refining in Little.  If pass pro isn't your strength as a LT, then I am very uncomfortable taking you that high.

[thefuzz]

14 hours ago, CarolinaNCSU said:

90% of the time I don't care about position, just get the best player.  Always remember the old philosophy of not taking a Guard Top 10, etc.....yeah I'd happily trade #7 for Quenton Nelson.  If the player is good and worth the pick, give him to me, position be damned. 

Was waiting on this, or the "how could you be OK with a RB in the top ten, and not a DT?".

Well, that's just a bit different, Nelson was a generational player, at least everyone thought that he was.  He was talked about as the best player in that draft.  I felt the same about CMC, thought he could be a generational running back in the NFL, hence be loving that draft pick at the time.

I simply don't feel that Brown is far and away the best player in this draft....and we aren't even certain he's the best defensive tackle in this draft...if he was Suh type of good, or that type of prospect, I could get behind it, he's not.

[mrcompletely11]

28 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

There's too many questions with Thomas and Becton for me to take either of them at #7.  Neither are polished in pass pro.  We took a guy last year that needed some refining in Little.  If pass pro isn't your strength as a LT, then I am very uncomfortable taking you that high.

We disagree about Thomas.  I think the dude is as legit as it gets.

[AU-panther]

I don't mind a DT as a top 10 pick IF can rush the passer.  

A run stopping DT can be found later.

Is there a DT in this draft that can consistently get to the QB?  

Brown's tape say yes, his measurables say no.  

Trading down though I would be more inclined to.

 

[mrcompletely11]

40 minutes ago, AU-panther said:

I don't mind a DT as a top 10 pick IF can rush the passer.  

A run stopping DT can be found later.

Is there a DT in this draft that can consistently get to the QB?  

Brown's tape say yes, his measurables say no.  

Trading down though I would be more inclined to.

 

Would you do our 7 and and 38 for Vegas 12,19 and 80.