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I feel very lonely as someone not wanting a top 10 DT.....

thefuzz

By thefuzz,
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Do you want a DT at 7, or even in the top 14 if we traded back?  

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  1. 1. Do you want a DT at 7, or even in the top 14 if we traded back?

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Why is that? Because you don't think it's necessary? Don't think a DT is worth a 1st round pick for us? Or you think there will be better value available?

Personally, I'd have NO problem with Derrick Brown at #7. I'm on the fence about Kinlaw. I kinda think he's boom or bust and I think there are likely to be better options available at other positions.

Honestly, with our issues in the trenches on both sides of the ball, I REALLY want the best lineman on the board be he offensive or defensive.

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I'm in the Simmons camp since the Okung trade, I think he's a great prospect and that there's more question marks about Brown than being let on (in the NFL, i doubt he'll be able to bully people entirely off of his sheer strength like he did in college, and I think the agility drills are of concern). I wouldn't hate Brown, i'd just prefer Simmons and Okudah.

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1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Why is that? Because you don't think it's necessary? Don't think a DT is worth a 1st round pick for us? Or you think there will be better value available?

Personally, I'd have NO problem with Derrick Brown at #7. I'm on the fence about Kinlaw. I kinda think he's boom or bust and I think there are likely to be better options available at other positions.

Honestly, with our issues in the trenches on both sides of the ball, I REALLY want the best lineman on the board be he offensive or defensive.

I don't think that the positional value is there if we are sitting pat at 7....in this draft.

I don't think that he has the ability to consistently generate pressure on the QB, and if I'm taking a DT in the top 10, at the very least I want that...he is not as good of a player (IMO) as Fletcher Cox, and certainly doesn't have the explosion.

And then we can bring up the likely snap counts for him...as a rook, I would be shocked if he played more than 65% of the defensive snaps, and stayed effective.....and that's just not what I would prefer to do with a top 10 pick.

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4 minutes ago, raz said:

i'm with you fuzz.   but honestly we have so many needs, and that is one of them so i'm not adamant about it.   

If we trade back....say to 15 or later, I would be OK with the DT pick, but not in the top 7, when we have so many needs, especially at more important positions such as CB, OT, QB (possibly), DE, etc....

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I'm not one to follow NFL "trends" as closely as some, but going back to the 2012 draft, there have only been 2 (I think) top ten DT's taken, both last season.  (one of them may not play for a while).

Just not sold that DT at 7 is a very smart move, especially when we have glaring holes all over the roster.

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I want an OT. Best class in years and something we have sorely missed. No matter who we have at QB, they have to be protected. 

I was hoping we could do a trade back with the Raiders for 12 and 19, take Brown/Kinlaw at 12 and Bechton at 19. Doesn't look like that could happen, but I think we need an anchor OL before a DT.

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