Corona Virus

[Jaycat]

[Paa Langfart]

Its in Brunswick County - SE North Carolina - somebody that was sick with it flew into ILM and tested positive for the virus.  Who knows how many folks on the plane or on the way home they infected.

 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/brunswick-county-person-who-tested-presumptive-positive-for-covid-19-had-traveled-through-ilm/ar-BB11bYHA

 

 

[JARROD]

There’s some alterior motive here,..

 

i mean, Tuberculosis kills 3000 people per day in the world and is the number 1 most deadly sickness... I just posted a chart on FB.

and we still had toilet paper in the store last month and went to work,..

this has gone berserk.

 

[Moo Daeng]

5 minutes ago, JARROD said:

There’s some alterior motive here,..

 

i mean, Tuberculosis kills 3000 people per day in the world and is the number 1 most deadly sickness... I just posted a chart on FB.

and we still had toilet paper in the store last month and went to work,..

this has gone berserk.

 

Paronoia, xenophobia, legal issues, human nature, uncertainty, etc.

Tuberculosis kills about 520 per calendar year in the USA and the cases have been in a constant decline. Its treated with antibiotics and this has been understood for a long time. Were at 57 confirmed deaths in the USA in like a month. 

No idea why toilet paper is so important all of a sudden.

[amcoolio]

Because our health care system and government is total poo and if there were mass infections, many people would die

By banning large crowds and social distancing, they are hoping to slowly spread out the virus so they are able to treat everyone

I -almost- wish these naysayers (mostly ultra right wing) would all get the virus so they would finally understand how serious it is

If 50,000 North Carolinians got it in the next month, we'd be in major trouble because not all could be treated and hosiptals would choose who to treat and who to hope will survive it

Is that really what you want

ALL of us have family members where the COVID-19 could be fatal to them

So lets not take a fuging chance

Edited March 15, 2020 by amcoolio

[LinvilleGorge]

45 minutes ago, JARROD said:

There’s some alterior motive here,..

 

i mean, Tuberculosis kills 3000 people per day in the world and is the number 1 most deadly sickness... I just posted a chart on FB.

and we still had toilet paper in the store last month and went to work,..

this has gone berserk.

 

What is the ulterior (that's the word you were looking for) motive that would explain many of the world's countries, allies and foes alike, basically grinding to a halt to stop this thing? Lots of major private businesses coming to a decision independent of government intervention to practically grind their own businesses to a halt in an effort to stop this thing?

Maybe, just maybe it's because they're run by people who aren't complete morons who understand the potential danger we face and that major interruption to their countries and businesses are absolutely inevitable at this point and taking drastic actions in the short term is going to look a lot better in the long-term than doing nothing and letting this thing spread like absolutely unchecked wildfire by continuing business as usual.

Here's a hint at why current gross numbers don't really matter. What matters is how much bigger they were vs. months, weeks, and days ago.

[Paa Langfart]

I just read that France has 300 plus critical care patients now from corona virus.  Half of them are under age 50.  let that sink in.  It isn't an old people or boomer disease.  It infects you whether you are old younger or black or white  or Asian or Hispanic.  Everyone is at risk and everyone can carry it to someone else - even if you do not get sick yourself.  Yall want to willingly kill someone elses folks just cause you dont believe in science or think youre going to be immune?

[LinvilleGorge]

Here's a sad chart. Based on what we had already seen in China and South Korea before the Italy situation even blew up, the measure we're seeing taken today should've been taken about two weeks ago. We likely would've had a chance to replicate the Singapore situation where this was practically stopped in it's tracks from the get go. Now we're in the exponential curve. And that's with absolutely piss poor access to testing. The actual number of cases is almost certainly a lot higher.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

Here in Colorado we've only tested 711 people. We have 101 confirmed cases. The number jumped by 30% today. There are still a lot of infected people out there who are either experiencing minor symptoms and think they have a cold or they're still in the incubation period and are currently asymptomatic. The really scary thing for us here is that our first fatality occurred today. She was a lady in her 80s with pre-existing health conditions (to be fair I think being in your 89s by itself probably qualifies as a pre-existing health condition). What makes it scary is that she played bridge with over 100 other elderly people over the course of five consecutive nights prior to her diagnosis. There were a lot of people potentially exposed and they're all part of the most vulnerable demographic. We could have an even worse version of the Seattle nursing home situation here soon because these elderly people weren't confined to a nursing home. They were out and about after their exposure.

[pantherj]

"Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, said he expects 70 million to 150 million people in the U.S. will become infected with COVID-19, NBC News reported Wednesday."

If that plays out a lot of elderly people are going to die by drowning from the fluid in their lungs. Horrific.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, pantherj said:

"Dr. Brian Monahan, the attending physician of Congress and the U.S. Supreme Court, said he expects 70 million to 150 million people in the U.S. will become infected with COVID-19, NBC News reported Wednesday."

If that plays out a lot of elderly people are going to die by drowning from the fluid in their lungs. Horrific.

To put this into perspective, roughly 15% of COVID-19 patients require hospitalization. There are less than one million hospital beds in the entire U.S. Even on the low end of that prediction, that's over 10 million people who will require hospitalization. That's basically the populations of Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Charlotte. Combined. Charlotte is by far the smallest of those cities and there's barely enough hospital beds nationwide to accommodate Charlotte.

[LinvilleGorge]

Honestly, it might be ill advised, but I'm a lot more hopeful than that due to watching the tides turn in China and South Korea and the hope of the warmer weather around the corner hopefully naturally slowing the spread.

[pantherj]

49 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

To put this into perspective, roughly 15% of COVID-19 patients require hospitalization. There are less than one million hospital beds in the entire U.S. Even on the low end of that prediction, that's over 10 million people who will require hospitalization. That's basically the populations of Los Angeles, Chicago, Houston, and Charlotte. Combined. Charlotte is by far the smallest of those cities and there's barely enough hospital beds nationwide to accommodate Charlotte.

And 22.5 million needing to be hospitalized on the high end, although that will be spread out over time, not all at once of course.

[pantherj]

Basically a lot of elderly people will be dying at home unless we have a vaccine soon. Some experts have guessed that it will take at least a year and a half before a vaccine will be available. Not good.