Corona Virus

[LinvilleGorge]

25 minutes ago, stirs said:

Look at the graphs I posted and give us all a lesson.  Really, if it is that simple, give the answers

 

20 minutes ago, Devil Doc said:

Really? I just totally just took a shot in the dark at this comment? I have been following this Virus since March. Tell me.. is Positive Cases, Testing, and deaths equally correlated? Lets say deaths are are lagging by cases.. they still do not equally correlate. The improvements in testing, healthcare, experience, medicine has drastically lowered the death rate. 

Testing will never lower the actual mortality rate, it simply gives us a better picture of the situation. More widespread testing has allowed people who aren't at significant risk of severe illness to be more readily tested. That is a major if not THE major cause of the decreasing calculated mortality rate. Another significant factor is that we're just now getting to the point where healthcare systems in spiking areas are starting to feel some strain. They're not yet overwhelmed like they were in NYC during their spike.

Either way, this idea that case count and mortality count are in no way correlated is just hilariously bad logic. All I have to do to show this is state that if case count is zero then the mortality count will also be zero. Everyone would say, "Well, no poo." Which is the point. It's a very basic concept.

[Paa Langfart]

38 minutes ago, The NFL Shield At Midfield said:

Has it not been explained a million times that deaths lag cases by weeks

 

[Happy Panther]

47 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

And less deaths in the entire state of Florida than NYC alone.

Yes but Covid is effectively over in New York

https://covid19-projections.com/us-ny

Florida is going to suffer for a while.

https://covid19-projections.com/us-fl

Also compare the infections rates for each.

https://rt.live/

NYC has 40% of the population of Florida packed into 302 square miles. Florida is 66,000 square miles. So of course NYC got hammered.

The difference is NYC and its libtards made smart decisions driven by science and beat it. NYC will be open while Florida is still suffering. 

You can do all the mental gymnastics you like but DeSantis is a moron. Just yesterday he said he would rather have bars open.  

The only thing he should be saying is "Stay home if you can, wear a mask, wash your hands, don't congregate." So should Trump. It's so simple and amazing how many idiots can't comprehend it.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

31 minutes ago, stirs said:

How many?

was 11 days, then 2 weeks, then 2-3 weeks.

Riots and protests and openings started 5 weeks ago.  Just sayin'

I guess we'll just have to see huh.

[Devil Doc]

4 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

 

Testing will never lower the actual mortality rate, it simply gives us a better picture of the situation. More widespread testing has allowed people who aren't at significant risk of severe illness to be more readily tested. That is a major if not THE major cause of the decreasing calculated mortality rate. Another significant factor is that we're just now getting to the point where healthcare systems in spiking areas are starting to feel some strain. They're not yet overwhelmed like they were in NYC during their spike.

Either way, this idea that case count and mortality count are in no way correlated is just hilariously bad logic. All I have to do to show this is state that if case count is zero then the mortality count will also be zero. Everyone would say, "Well, no poo." Which is the point. It's a very basic concept.

To be fair, I meant to say equally correlated. 

[4Corners]

32 minutes ago, stirs said:

So now you are a Dick Cheney fan?

Im willing to acknowledge that he is doing the right thing. It’s called meeting someone half way. I know it’s a foreign concept for right wingers to try and get along but u should try it sometime. It may save your life one day. 

[LinvilleGorge]

Even Mike Pence is advocating for wearing masks now. The evidence is overwhelming for their effectiveness in preventing the spread of this disease (and respiratory diseases in general). It was wildly irresponsible and reckless for them to be anti-mask for as long as they were, but it's vitally important for people to get this message going into 4th of July weekend. Memorial Day weekend was pretty much the kickoff for these current spikes.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

4 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Im willing to acknowledge that he is doing the right thing. It’s called meeting someone half way. I know it’s a foreign concept for right wingers to try and get along but u should try it sometime. It may save your life one day. 

The fact that we're debating wearing masks as a matter of political ideology in a respiratory illness pandemic is just sad.

Also it's really cool that none of you are debating the death numbers now.  Like three weeks ago it was all a gigantic conspiracy to make the President look bad.  If they spike again I suppose we'll see a lot of people pivoting back to their YouTube videos of antivaxx nurses risking it all to tell the truth and people yelling in hospital parking lots.

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

Even Mike Pence is advocating for wearing masks now. The evidence is overwhelming for their effectiveness in preventing the spread of this disease (and respiratory diseases in general). It was wildly irresponsible and reckless for them to be anti-mask for as long as they were, but it's vitally important for people to get this message going into 4th of July weekend. Memorial Day weekend was pretty much the kickoff for these current spikes.

B-but Fauci said to not wear masks like three months ago

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Yes but Covid is effectively over in New York

https://covid19-projections.com/us-ny

Florida is going to suffer for a while.

https://covid19-projections.com/us-fl

Also compare the infections rates for each.

https://rt.live/

NYC has 40% of the population of Florida packed into 302 square miles. Florida is 66,000 square miles. So of course NYC got hammered.

The difference is NYC and its libtards made smart decisions driven by science and beat it. NYC will be open while Florida is still suffering. 

You can do all the mental gymnastics you like but DeSantis is a moron. Just yesterday he said he would rather have bars open.  

The only thing he should be saying is "Stay home if you can, wear a mask, wash your hands, don't congregate." So should Trump. It's so simple and amazing how many idiots can't comprehend it.

NYC is only now really reopening, just give it time.  They are behind the curve, literally, based off reopening later than just about everyone else.  All they did was delay what is bound to eventually happen.  Just give it a few weeks (see, I can play this game too). 

Smart decisions like sticking COVID-19 patients in nursing homes?

 

Edited June 29, 2020 by 45catfan

[Wes21]

9 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Yes but Covid is effectively over in New York

https://covid19-projections.com/us-ny

Florida is going to suffer for a while.

https://covid19-projections.com/us-fl

Also compare the infections rates for each.

https://rt.live/

NYC has 40% of the population of Florida packed into 302 square miles. Florida is 66,000 square miles. So of course NYC got hammered.

The difference is NYC and its libtards made smart decisions driven by science and beat it. NYC will be open while Florida is still suffering. 

You can do all the mental gymnastics you like but DeSantis is a moron. Just yesterday he said he would rather have bars open.  

The only thing he should be saying is "Stay home if you can, wear a mask, wash your hands, don't congregate." So should Trump. It's so simple and amazing how many idiots can't comprehend it.

Florida should have kept those dirty New Yorkers out of the state, that would have helped.

[NanuqoftheNorth]

At this point, why would anyone believe status reports coming from Florida state government?  They were exposed months ago for pressuring their statisticians to fudge/minimize the number of COVID cases.  Chances are the actual numbers are worse than those being reported.

[4Corners]

US of A is global embarrassment 

 

[The NFL Shield At Midfield]

2 minutes ago, NanuqoftheNorth said:

At this point, why would anyone believe status reports coming from Florida state government?  They were exposed months ago for pressuring their statisticians to fudge/minimize the number of COVID cases.  Chances are the actual numbers are worse than those being reported.

Their circle jerking about all the numbers being fake only goes one way.