Corona Virus

[45catfan]

7 minutes ago, raz said:

45catfan that still doesn't make any sense.   the first wave isn't over until the virus has had a chance to reach all areas and all people. that's the end of the first wave or pass.  i guess its just semantics because nothing has changed at all from the beginning credible scientific information we had in march.  

also, great, now i'm sure the fbi is looking at me because my username is the same as the new seattle warlord

So are you saying in 1918 before commercial air travel and when only a fraction of the country had cars...when interstate travel was very uncommon, the 1918 Flu spread faster?  Passenger trains were common, but not like highways, streets and air travel are today.  I don't understand that logic.

[Davidson Deac II]

22 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

So are you saying in 1918 before commercial air travel and when only a fraction of the country had cars...when interstate travel was very uncommon, the 1918 Flu spread faster?  Passenger trains were common, but not like highways, streets and air travel are today.  I don't understand that logic.

But you also have to factor in large numbers of soldiers returning to the US, Australia, and areas from Europe, And returning packed on a variety of ships with lower hygene standards.  

[45catfan]

17 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

But you also have to factor in large numbers of soldiers returning to the US, Australia, and areas from Europe, And returning packed on a variety of ships with lower hygene standards.  

That's how it got here, but why did it have three waves then?  It's not like it was a phased reduction, the war was over and the soldiers largely came home which would explain the first wave.  Most of these people worked on the family farm outside of your major cities.  So if it was just an urban, thing I could understand.  Granted hygiene was lacking back then, but they wore masks and socially distance...supposedly.  If this is like the 1918 Flu and cyclical, we almost have to be in the 2nd wave now.

[Ja Rhule]

Both new cases and hospitalizations are rapidly increasing for 4th straight day. 32 additional hospitalizations due to covid in last 24 hours.

 

Edited June 11, 2020 by Ja Rhule

[45catfan]

38 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Both new cases and hospitalizations are rapidly increasing for 4th straight day. 32 additional hospitalizations due to covid in last 24 hours.

 

Do you think we are in the 2nd wave or have yet to hit it?

[Ja Rhule]

Just now, 45catfan said:

Do you think we are in the 2nd wave or have yet to hit it?

Considering that we had a huge decrease and begun reopening and now we see big increase leaves me to believe second wave has begun.

[Davidson Deac II]

1 hour ago, 45catfan said:

That's how it got here, but why did it have three waves then?  It's not like it was a phased reduction, the war was over and the soldiers largely came home which would explain the first wave.  Most of these people worked on the family farm outside of your major cities.  So if it was just an urban, thing I could understand.  Granted hygiene was lacking back then, but they wore masks and socially distance...supposedly.  If this is like the 1918 Flu and cyclical, we almost have to be in the 2nd wave now.

I suppose its not the only reason for the waves of resurgence of the flu, but the soldiers themselves came home in waves, with the last WW1 veterans not returning until 1920.  The treaty of Versailles was signed in June of 1919, and there was still over 800,000 US soldiers in Europe I believe.  

[45catfan]

20 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Considering that we had a huge decrease and begun reopening and now we see big increase leaves me to believe second wave has begun.

Yup, I'm there with you.  

[Anybodyhome]

[45catfan]

21 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I suppose its not the only reason for the waves of resurgence of the flu, but the soldiers themselves came home in waves, with the last WW1 veterans not returning until 1920.  The treaty of Versailles was signed in June of 1919, and there was still over 800,000 US soldiers in Europe I believe.  

So I guess the question is why did it carry not on past then?  Did it just burn itself out?  No vaccine was ever made.  Viruses have finite life cycles and possibly it had simply ran it's course.  I'm hoping this one runs it's complete course before this winter.

[Ja Rhule]

Dow crashed today due to resurgence of the COVID cases... basically confirming the 2nd wave.

[Paa Langfart]

6 hours ago, KSpan said:

My wife exhibited the common symptoms of a moderately-affected person (dry cough, on/off fever and fatigue for weeks) in December and a medical professional I know who treats many soldiers from a nearby army base with lots of global travelers was seeing numerous cases fitting COVID profile back in November. There seems little doubt that this was around since at least late Fall 2019.

Then an anti body test would confirm that these folks had it ?  I have not seen any information from any reliable sources that confirm this.  If you dont have the anti bodies you most likely didnt have covid .

[Paa Langfart]

3 hours ago, 45catfan said:

but why did it have three waves then?

flu is caused by a virus.  All viruses like covid are NOT flu.  Flu is seasonal in nature.   Covid is not.

[LinvilleGorge]

29 minutes ago, Paa Langfart said:

flu is caused by a virus.  All viruses like covid are NOT flu.  Flu is seasonal in nature.   Covid is not.

Unfortunately, it is. That's why we're gonna get smacked HARD in the fall.