Corona Virus

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10 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

This is a lie. I posted a video a few pages back of the WHO leader on January 23rd saying this was not a global emergency and that travel and trade should still go on. 

On january 30th, Trump put that travel ban on china and the WHO and Democrats called him racist and a xenophobe. 

What were the Democrats doing in feb? Grilling the President daily on impeachment over false accusations about ukraine. 

For Deomcrats to shift blame from China and the WHO to Trump just shows how much they hate the man. 

He has said things that have been completely false. He isn't perfect. But you would think by how much the Democrats attack him, he was in a lab making the virus. 

Instead of complaining so much, try for one week to be positive and not always play victim. Everyone living in the United States should feel very thankful.

Trump attacks everyone on a daily basis. Then gets criticized and turns into a snowflake. His cheering section is no different. 

[Cam's New Arm]

5 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

Well its a lie because your trying to imply that the rest of the world should have taken those warnings especially Trump. But on Jan 23rd the WHO said its not a global emergency and travel and trade should not stop. So he wasn't too worried, no?

Trump gets called a racist xenophobe for the travel ban on jan 30th. Was that a good call?

I think you won this argument 

Edited April 18, 2020 by Cam's New Arm

[Tbe]

One third of participants in a random street study tested positive.

https://www.bostonglobe.com/2020/04/17/business/nearly-third-200-blood-samples-taken-chelsea-show-exposure-coronavirus/

[electro's horse]

22 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

On january 30th, Trump put that travel ban on china and the WHO and Democrats called him racist and a xenophobe. 

 

he did not close off travel with china.

Nearly 40,000 Americans and authorized travelers have come into the U.S. from China since President Trump imposed travel restrictions more than two months ago, the New York Times reports.

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Details: 279 flights from China have arrived in the U.S. since Trump's travel restrictions were announced, "and screening procedures have been uneven," the Times notes.

https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-trump-china-travel-ban-45a2da12-8063-4ad9-ba28-61cdeb1ce0b3.html

much like everything he does, he simply claims let, let's fox news repeat it, and trusts his low information supporters (you in this case) will buy it. And you people continue to. 

[MHS831]

Talk Facts---his ban was in part, based on the trade deals--trying to establish leverage. It was more rhetoric than anything else.  But that is all Trump supporters need--they want to be lied to, obviously.

Here are facts pulled YESTERDAY---If TRUMP was all over this, how do we have 1/3 of the world's cases (we have about 4% of the world's population)?  Look at the deaths vs. the rest of the world.  He could have led instead he passed the buck, blamed others, bragged with false statistics, and lied about his lies.  These are the numbers.  How do they reflect his leadership?   If you defend this,  you are closer to a cult member than a responsible citizen.  He did not make America great, but we are #1!!!  I am guessing Fox News has not shared the math with the Trump Chumps.  Fake News, right?

Edited April 18, 2020 by MHS831

[electro's horse]

i think my favorite story of trump ignoring this is when he was first briefed in early january, all he wanted talk about was making vapers happy.

the dude is obsessed with vapers. 

[LinvilleGorge]

This isn't a black and white either/or issue. There's plenty of blame to go around and Trump and China both certainly deserve a lot.

[electro's horse]

3 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

Maybe our open boarder policy needs looked at? 

To say he didnt put a travel ban on when the leader of the WHO called him out for it. 

Why is the rest of the world blaming china?

he said a thing, someone else said a thing. what is undeniable is that people got into the country from the place trump said couldn't. He was just blowing smoke. 

And the rest of the world is blaming china because it's easier to do that than conduct an adequate response, apparently. Lindsey graham is getting murdered in fundraising and he's responding by calling China the world leader in pandemic spreading. 

like you don't have to post. you can just read and maybe educate yourself. 

[MHS831]

2 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

Maybe our open boarder policy needs looked at? 

To say he didnt put a travel ban on when the leader of the WHO called him out for it. 

Why is the rest of the world blaming china?

They aren't. You are trying to argue some ambiguous point when the many other stupid, careless, uninformed comments get a pass?  

Why do we have 1/3 of the cases in the world, and only 4% of the world's population?  Read his public comments during February and March.  The man let people die because he was worried about the economy.  He politicized death.  It was that simple.  Period. Full stop.  The data clearly demonstrates that our leader is a narcissistic dumbass.

[electro's horse]

2 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

My favorite Nancy Pelosi quote is when she promoted going to china town in Febuary after Trump made the travel ban on Jan 30th. She must not have been too concerned with the virus at that time. Then later deleated the tweet because that wouldn't look good. 

she didn't delete anything. that's just rumor mongering from whatever dark, hideous corner of the itnernet your kind hang out in. 

and she went to chinatown to combat anti chinese sentiment that started spreading after trump started doing what he does. you know, supporting her constituents. in san francisco. where she's from

regardless the US cases mostly came from europe. 

[Wes21]

6 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

My favorite Nancy Pelosi quote is when she promoted going to china town in Febuary after Trump made the travel ban on Jan 30th. She must not have been too concerned with the virus at that time. Then later deleated the tweet because that wouldn't look good. 

Didn't a house committee vote to try to overturn Trump's travel ban?  That didn't age well either.

[Wes21]

4 minutes ago, electro's horse said:

she didn't delete anything. that's just rumor mongering from whatever dark, hideous corner of the itnernet your kind hang out in. 

and she went to chinatown to combat anti chinese sentiment that started spreading after trump started doing what he does. you know, supporting her constituents. in san francisco. where she's from

regardless the US cases mostly came from europe. 

The New York cases originated from Europe, after the European cases originated from China.  The Washington cases originated from China.

[MHS831]

3 minutes ago, CaliPanthers said:

My favorite Nancy Pelosi quote is when she promoted going to china town in Febuary after Trump made the travel ban on Jan 30th. She must not have been too concerned with the virus at that time. Then later deleated the tweet because that wouldn't look good. 

Blame the leader---not Nancy Pelosi.  The fact that you all constantly need someone to blame is very telling---it is because you support an idiot. 

Cherry pick distorted facts all you want, but a true leader does not make excuses like you all do for him.  He is a pussy--he is weak and stupid, relying on some news network to feed propaganda to those in the country who excuse or fail to see that he consistently and constantly shows you who he is.  No, there is not some conspiracy to get the president--he shows us that he is unethical, criminal, and immoral all the time.  Instead of chasing down his "look over there" finger pointing, why not give your allegiance to this corrupt loser some thought.  You are getting played--you and a bunch of other gullible Fox viewers.  I respect that as much as I do the National Enquirer, pro wrestling, and reality TV--all things Donald Trump has been involved with--imagine that.  So when you try to support him--understand that this is the person we see you defending----not the character presented to you in lies and spin.

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47 minutes ago, Ja Rhule said:

Stop talking politics in here, damn it.  

Forget that, mods lead the way and will ban you for objecting