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Matt Miller: many sources around league believe Panthers will attempt to "tank" for Trevor Lawrence

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mrcompletely11 Grand Master

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9 minutes ago, TheRed said:

So you're a Trevor Lawrence stan but also can't wait to push Newton out the door?

Well everything is explained now.

Its fan.  And it doesnt matter if I am a fan or not because he is the top prospect on the board right now.

 

And I am starting to think you have a problem with reading comprehension because you are doing these dumb strawmen and projecting things that I have never said.   I have said this 1000 times now on here but you just cannot comprehend.  I love cam, I love his game, the 2015 season is an all timer for me.  However the timing of all of this (his contract, his injury, Tepper, his surgery, etc) just makes it where the odds of Cam being our qb going further minuscule.  If he was in his 2nd or 3rd year on a  5 year deal then I would think the opposite.  But now it makes too much sense to move on from him rather than re-up on a 31 year old qb coming off major foot surgery and a chronically bad throwing shoulder.  It makes zero sense to trot him out there for one year.  It just doesnt.  I could be wrong for sure but one thing is we will find out one way or another soon enough.

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ickmule Grand Master

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Man, I’d like to know where some of y’all got those rose colored glasses.  This team sucked last season and many of the less sucky players will be gone to be replaced with what? Rookies and old guys ? This season upcoming is gonna be terrible.  

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9 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Man, I’d like to know where some of y’all got those rose colored glasses.  This team sucked last season and many of the less sucky players will be gone to be replaced with what? Rookies and old guys ? This season upcoming is gonna be terrible.  

You say the same poo every year.

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3 minutes ago, mrcompletely11 said:

Well if you are going to insult folks on here it probably would reflect a little better on you if you at least don't come off being illiterate. 

Doesn't take much effort to insult someone that thinks actively tanking is a legitimate course of action for a franchise that still can't even notch back to back winning seasons.

Do you also believe in the tooth fairy or the easter bunny?

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24 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Sure do and I’m mostly correct.  This franchise had been mediocre for all but about 5 seasons. 

I recall you being barely active if at all when we were winning.

Did you even post when we were 6-1 in 2018?

What about when we went to the playoffs in 2017 with practice squad wide receivers?

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3 hours ago, WarHeel said:

Their stats for 2019 are virtually identical and Sam did it with arguably much less talent around him AND in his first year. It’s not a stretch to suggest that he may indeed be better in the long term.

Lawrence has some pretty elite ball placement, seems to be a better arm talent and it quite a bit more mobile. Howell is clearly talented but IMO, Lawrence is very clearly the better prospect at the moment. It will be interesting to see Howell moving forward. I'd like to see him become a lot more accurate with the ball. That's one area what Lawrence has excelled at even as a freshman and being an accurate passer in college has been a strong predictor of being an accurate NFL passer. 

The statistics are sort of irrelevant, IMO. College stats are not a strong predictor of NFL results. Additionally, while Lawrence benefited from superior talent, Howell actually benefited statistically from his team being so terrible. Lawrence was taking his foot off the gas in the 4th quarter of a few of those games, whereas Howell was fighting for wins and still airing it out. So, I'd say that kind of evens out over the course of a season. 

If Howell is able to improve and maintain that kind of production in college, he'll definitely be a first round QB and possibly a top 10 guy. 

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28 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Lawrence has some pretty elite ball placement, seems to be a better arm talent and it quite a bit more mobile. Howell is clearly talented but IMO, Lawrence is very clearly the better prospect at the moment. It will be interesting to see Howell moving forward. I'd like to see him become a lot more accurate with the ball. That's one area what Lawrence has excelled at even as a freshman and being an accurate passer in college has been a strong predictor of being an accurate NFL passer. 

The statistics are sort of irrelevant, IMO. College stats are not a strong predictor of NFL results. Additionally, while Lawrence benefited from superior talent, Howell actually benefited statistically from his team being so terrible. Lawrence was taking his foot off the gas in the 4th quarter of a few of those games, whereas Howell was fighting for wins and still airing it out. So, I'd say that kind of evens out over the course of a season. 

If Howell is able to improve and maintain that kind of production in college, he'll definitely be a first round QB and possibly a top 10 guy. 

Howell is already the top rated QB for the 2022 draft. If he keeps getting better over the next two seasons he will be the top pick.

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