The Panthers need to do what ever it takes to draft Denzel Mims

[jfra78]

11 hours ago, Khyber53 said:

So many places with holes on the team, just not sure we're spending early draft capital on any receivers. Maybe a TE, but I don't see more receivers right now.

The advantage of this being such a strong class for receivers and QBs is that it may clear up some excellent prospects in other positions to fall to us late in second day.

I think in today's NFL, you need 1a and 1b WRs.  With this year being stacked with WR talent it may be a good time to get that #1 talent in the 2nd round.

[SOJA]

he was my not so sneaky pick for us to nab in the second round. with his combine there is no chance he makes it to our second round pick. He will easily go in the first round now. I suspect Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb and Ruggs all go in the first now with Tee Higgins and a couple others in play too 

A shame because I think this kid is a superstar in the making 

[SOJA]

9 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

If we don’t trade back (my personal preference) Simmons, Brown, Kinlaw, or Okudah will be the pick. I’d be willing to put money on it.

the only person you don't have in there that is a super long shot: Tua, otherwise I agree 

[Eazy-E]

49 minutes ago, SOJA said:

the only person you don't have in there that is a super long shot: Tua, otherwise I agree 

I think there is literally a 0% chance we take a QB at 7.

Cam either comes back healthy and plays himself into an extension or we're picking top ten in the draft next year again with a much better QB class.

That's the hill i'm going to die on.

Edit: If Tua falls to us at pick 7 he will be auctioned off to the highest bidder.

[Rags]

12 hours ago, PantherOnTheProwl1523 said:

This is a huge wrong answer when we need to fix major holes with DL and OL(top need) and get the best available WR later in the draft.We need to get protection for the QB first thing over anything else.

We have one wide receiver under contract next season atm

 

How is WR not a huge need? 

[steven8989]

5 minutes ago, Rags said:

We have one wide receiver under contract next season atm

 

How is WR not a huge need? 

I agree I think it's WR or QB at 7. I think the combine Brown had will hurt him and I really don't think that's who they want anyway

[Moo Daeng]

He looks amazing but Bret Kolman seems to do that  to players.

[Khyber53]

11 hours ago, jfra78 said:

I think in today's NFL, you need 1a and 1b WRs.  With this year being stacked with WR talent it may be a good time to get that #1 talent in the 2nd round.

Or even later.

[Khyber53]

22 hours ago, ncfan said:

Again people keep ignoring 

We're going to be running 3 WR 1 TE NOT the 2 TE 2 WR sets Rivera ran

 

So ill repeat we'll run

1 TE: Ian Thomas AND Manhurtz under contract

3 WR: Moore, Samuel, and.........?

 

 

WR is actually the bigger need.  People just assume just because Olsen left that we need a TE.  

I'm not sold on Thomas yet. I'm not saying he's bad, just saying haven't seen anything that made me sit up and take notice yet.

[MHS831]

10 hours ago, Eazy-E said:

I think there is literally a 0% chance we take a QB at 7.

Cam either comes back healthy and plays himself into an extension or we're picking top ten in the draft next year again with a much better QB class.

That's the hill i'm going to die on.

Edit: If Tua falls to us at pick 7 he will be auctioned off to the highest bidder.

Ok, who in next year's QB class (after the top 2 names) is better than the top 4 this season?

How does it benefit a long-term rebuild to have Cam, a 31-year old running QB, to be running the show at $33m? 

ZERO chance?  After free agency, there could be a team like the Chargers who do not need a QB--they will trade for Cam or draft Bridgewater, for example.  If someone like Herbert is sitting there, do the Panthers take him--knowing that the QB position in 2020 is riding on a question mark?

How many seasons are you willing to throw away waiting to see if Cam is healthy, or if the pounding he has taken over the years has taken its toll?  Currently, he has spent nearly half of his $21m per year contract playing hurt or on the sideline..  It cost us 2018 and 2019---so are you willing to tell the season ticket holder that yet another season is wasted waiting on 2015 to return?

You might be right, but I think Cam has taken a beating like no other QB---he has not gotten the calls and he has played with a "win at all costs" mentality.  You had to know that his career would be shorter than most, right?  So what makes anyone think that 2021-25--even if he has a good 2020, is not going to be more of the same?  Take away the run and look at Cam's numbers--average at best.

Does Brady like running QBs? 

Keeping Cam should not be this team's priority.  It simply makes no sense to build around an oft-injured, running QB in his 30s.   Maybe they have no viable options in 2020, but I would be shocked to see an extension.

[jfra78]

2 hours ago, MHS831 said:

Ok, who in next year's QB class (after the top 2 names) is better than the top 4 this season?

How does it benefit a long-term rebuild to have Cam, a 31-year old running QB, to be running the show at $33m? 

ZERO chance?  After free agency, there could be a team like the Chargers who do not need a QB--they will trade for Cam or draft Bridgewater, for example.  If someone like Herbert is sitting there, do the Panthers take him--knowing that the QB position in 2020 is riding on a question mark?

How many seasons are you willing to throw away waiting to see if Cam is healthy, or if the pounding he has taken over the years has taken its toll?  Currently, he has spent nearly half of his $21m per year contract playing hurt or on the sideline..  It cost us 2018 and 2019---so are you willing to tell the season ticket holder that yet another season is wasted waiting on 2015 to return?

You might be right, but I think Cam has taken a beating like no other QB---he has not gotten the calls and he has played with a "win at all costs" mentality.  You had to know that his career would be shorter than most, right?  So what makes anyone think that 2021-25--even if he has a good 2020, is not going to be more of the same?  Take away the run and look at Cam's numbers--average at best.

Does Brady like running QBs? 

Keeping Cam should not be this team's priority.  It simply makes no sense to build around an oft-injured, running QB in his 30s.   Maybe they have no viable options in 2020, but I would be shocked to see an extension.

We get it you don't like Cam. To answer you. He gets 1 year to prove he's healthy.  Rhule already said he chose Brady partly because he thinks Cam would fit his system.  Buckle up and enjoy the Cam era or go find another team if it bothers you this much. 

[45catfan]

If we are tanking, draft a WR in the first or second round.  If we want to have a team to actually be watchable on Sunday's this fall, you do not take a WR at #7 or #38.  There's too many critical every play holes to fill on this swiss cheese roster for a WR to be taken that high.  I've said it before, it's luxury we do not have in year one of this rebuild.

[davos]

23 hours ago, WOW!! said:

I love the guy.. Everything I see on him looks like a Mike Thomas clone.. He checks off so many boxes and I wouldn't have any reservations if he was the pick in the 2nd.. But we have so many holes on the defense now..

To be fair, there are holes everywhere.  Call Kevin Bacon, because it's Tremors out there

[45catfan]

A top 40 pick for a guy who, at best, will average 3-4 catches a game.  The ELITE WRs in the NFL average 5-6 catches per game.  Tell me how that is more important than stopping opposing teams from ramming their rushing attack straight down our throats with ease?