REPORT: Panthers interested in re-signing Mario Addison

[Harbingers]

4 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

I have a feeling we're not even going to bother attempting to re-sign Vernon Butler, he was a major reason our run defense was historically bad. 

He’s not a run stopping DL. He’s a passing down DL who would pair well with someone like Star in a 4-3(essentially a KK light without the run block ability).

[Mister]

smart resign him and let him start across from brian beast 

[45catfan]

I think the main point is we are trying to retain one of our only two 4-3 DEs.  I wouldn't read too deep into this as in Mario is a long-term keeper.  We have more holes than draft picks and FA spending is going to minimal.  All this does is keeps our options open for the draft.  Had Addison walked, we would have been left with Obada as our only traditional 4-3 end.  At that point drafting a DE would have been a priority limiting flexibility on draft day.

 

 

[Waldo]

Makes more sense if we are running a 3-4. That would give us to smallish weakside DEs in the 4-3. Just a guess.

Good guy but i want Burns to get reps. If they can find a way to play them both at the same time and he wants to come back, why not. Just as long as it doesn't come with a rediculous contract.

[45catfan]

8 minutes ago, Waldo said:

Makes more sense if we are running a 3-4. That would give us to smallish weakside DEs in the 4-3. Just a guess.

Good guy but i want Burns to get reps. If they can find a way to play them both at the same time and he wants to come back, why not. Just as long as it doesn't come with a rediculous contract.

We are not married to the 3-4 just because of Burns, Miller and Haynes.  That later two are 4th rounders and if they can't find a home in the 4-3, then so be it.  Burns has the frame to pack on some pounds and be a 4-3 end.  

Addison played DE in the 4-3 for several years prior to going to a 3-4.  I'm sure he can put some of the weight he lost back on. He was never that heavy to begin with; around 265, but played end fairly well.

[stbugs]

2 hours ago, Jared Patterson said:

So trade Trai(young), keep Mario(Old), keep Cam (Old) for a rebuild? This organization makes no sense.

Maybe Trai being lazy and putting forward a half assed effort on some plays (might as well been a matador) isn’t what the staff wants. 

[onmyown]

3 hours ago, The Lobo said:

So it’s not a total rebuild then?

Signing shaq, keeping cmc and DJ and Samuel, probably keeping Cam, possibly resigning bradberry...

Trying to trade Turner, letting Butler go...cutting the fat of under performers...

Irvin and McCoy want to play for an immediate contender but they’re not exactly in the prime and irreplaceable...and they were one yea fill in the gap FAs to begin with. They can be replaced.

I think these are all good moves to get the stage set for cam and also setting us up for a possible rebuild if he can’t get back to his self.

i don’t think the Panthers ever intended on a full rebuild. They have prices like cmc, Burns, Moore, Moton and resigned Shaq. Too much very young  talent to just wipe the slate clean.

honestly unless bradberry isn’t resigned there really isn’t any player they’re letting go that’s going to be hard to replace.

people need to realize letting players go from a god awful 6-10 team isn’t ‘rebuilding’. Changes have to be made, I’d be more worried if they were trying to keep the 6-10 team intact.

[45catfan]

3 hours ago, The Lobo said:

So it’s not a total rebuild then?

Oh, but it is, you still have to field a 53 man roster.  Not signing all your FAs isn't an option unless you go out in FA and fill the holes you just created.   Some guys are going to have to be re-signed out of necessity.  The deals comprised of low money and only for a year...two max.  That allows us to get a draft or two under our belt where the core of the new team will be created.

[Eazy-E]

Notice how the new regime doesn’t care about your tenure or how much you make. So glad Ron is no longer here to protect his fat, lazy, overpaid vets. Rhule is looking to trim the fat and engage in bringing guys back who actually produced based on how they were paid. 

[Waldo]

25 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

We are not married to the 3-4 just because of Burns, Miller and Haynes.  That later two are 4th rounders and if they can't find a home in the 4-3, then so be it.  Burns has the frame to pack on some pounds and be a 4-3 end.  

Addison played DE in the 4-3 for several years prior to going to a 3-4.  I'm sure he can put some of the weight he lost back on. He was never that heavy to begin with; around 265, but played end fairly well.

If Addison comes back and we are running the 4-3, burns and him would be set to play the same spot, weakside DE. Burns was a 1st round pick, i don't care which way we go but that guy needs to be playing and not behind Addison.

[Snake]

I would say there is about zero chance that happens. 

[45catfan]

5 minutes ago, Waldo said:

If Addison comes back and we are running the 4-3, burns and him would be set to play the same spot, weakside DE. Burns was a 1st round pick, i don't care which way we go but that guy needs to be playing and not behind Addison.

That's fine and even if they have a rotation.  We are just really thin at DE, especially out of a 4-3 formation.

[1of10Charnatives]

11 hours ago, jfra78 said:

With Cam back, we may not be as far away from contention as many think.

With our current offensive (really offensive) line, who is taking snaps under center is almost irrelevant with regards to contention. This OL as it is now will not allow this team to contend and I do not believe it’s remotely feasible to expect that to be fixed in a single offseason, to say nothing of fixing the defense. I love me some Cam, but expecting contention this year is just not realistic imo.

[BrianS]

We have already lost two guys who started 10+ games for us last year in Olsen and Kuechly.  We have another TEN players who were 10+ game starters that are either FA's or team options.  Many of those 10 will not be back.  McCoy, Irvin, Bradberry and Boston are one foot out the door. 

While we were really bad, no argument, we simply can't replace that many players in one off season.  Some guys we probably don't really want have to stay just to avoid being EVEN WORSE.

People don't seem to realize that the draft is only going to net you 5 players at best.  Honestly, if you get five players out of any draft you've nailed it.  We can't just get rid of everyone and draft their replacement.  Realistically, you probably get 4 players who make your 53 and another 2 or 3 for the practice squad.

All NFL FA's are FA's for a reason.  It's pretty clear we aren't interested in signing high dollar FA's, and frankly I get that.  Sure, you'll occasionally find a FA gem, but there are 31 other teams out there looking for the same thing.  Maybe you find a couple.  Then you've got the guys who are FA's because the team they were with didn't think they could play - for whatever reason.  Doesn't matter, it's highly unlikely any of those come in to actually help us.

That means we need to keep some of our FA's, and some of the guys we'd probably prefer not to have.