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Trai Turner is being shopped around, per ESPN

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Now if you want to push a Hurney ''sucks at contracts'' narrative show a real example since he's been back, his job is to draft / sign / retain, coaches I'm sure have input on that process, so you also need to consider the coach, a man we all questioned in regard to talent evaluation. 

From a cap impact, none of those were bad deals. Coaches, have to get the most out of guys period once the ink sets. 

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1 hour ago, stbugs said:

If this is true, WTF would Cam even want to be here? Trai looked like crap but he was the 2nd best crap we had. Cam will get killed and to be on a one year deal? All you Cam fans really want him playing through a total rebuild with no long term deal?

If I recall, Cam chewed him out on field during a game. He might not be someone Cam wants to keep around anymore. 

It has been a while since Trai pulled anything but a paycheck here.

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Not that I care one way or another...

 

Anyone think that the orders to purge these players/contracts are coming from above Hurney? 

 

Just curious,  everyone is so quick to blame Hurney. 

Everyone also wanted to move on from Ron Rivera, and i warned all of you that would be a complete change, ie.,  new chapter in this Panthers franchise. 

Those who have been griping forever about settling for mediocrity,  why can't you wrap your mind this is part of the process of changing that culture you swear you can't stand? 

Ya don't want mediocrity,  but ya don't want to trust these men to get the franchise into the new chapter either. 

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2 hours ago, trueblade said:

 

Ok, this guys not very smart. His numbers are wrong. If we trade him there is a one time hit in 2020. Dude doesn’t know how to read the tables. If we trade or release him in 2021 then that 2021 number applies.

Here it is in plain English:

Play out contract - $30M cap hit over 2020 and 2021 ($20.5M is NEW salary and roster bonus)

Trade or release in 2021 - $18.5M cap hit over 2020 and 2021

Trade or release in 2020 - $9.6M cap hit over 2020

So trade him now and save $3.2M in 2020 and $17.2M in 2021. The reason why the cap savings is more than his above is that he didn’t read the voided years where the restructuring (yep Marty did him too) bonus is $1.8M over 2022 and 2023.

Same with Short, not having him on the roster the next two years saves us $28.5M in NEW money.

Dead cap doesn’t change. That’s from bonuses already paid so that will work it’s way onto our cap whether they are here or not. It’s the new money we save. For Turner, it’s $20.5M over two years and for Short, it’s $28.5M over two years. If we can get a pick for Turner in a rebuild and save $49M in cap space for both, I’d do it. They’ve been mediocre at best the past two years and they are getting paid like top guys, which they aren’t.

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