Carolina sticking with Cam

[Toomers]

4 minutes ago, King K. Rhule said:

This is why we want you to just go away, its the Carolina huddle not the camolina huddle. Plus your one of those steeler "fans" who have never even been in the state of PA, your a joke. Go tee pee your rotting dead trees you fuging redneck.

First, who gives a flying f##k what YOU want? You’re just a troll who has to pick a new name every couple months because of the ignorant things you say. 
 

   I guess growing up in Pittsburgh during the 1970s doesn’t matter in your mind. Who cares. 
 
   What part of the truth that I posted bothers you so much? Is it so damaging that you demand I leave instead of discussing it. Why am I a red neck. Is that derogatory comment with a racial shot? Sure seems like it. Wanna explain that? I’m guessing probably not: 

[1of10Charnatives]

7 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Where the fug are you getting 3 consecutive injury plagued seasons ..

'17 - No injury

'18 - Scar tissue built up (not an injury)

'19 - Injury

Cam has had one injury plagued season, 2019.

Okay I think we’re done.Have a nice day man.

[Toomers]

5 minutes ago, dave-o said:

I thought he was talking about The Red....  

He’s made it clear it’s me....I’m honored...lol. Considering the source, I took it as a compliment. 

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

Just now, 1of10Charnatives said:

Okay I think we’re done.Have a nice day man.

You must not understand what the word consecutive means.

'17 Cam had no injuries to speak of .. I'll give you '18 and '19 - that's still only two consecutive seasons. Lay off the Diet Cola.

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

You must not understand what the word consecutive means.

'17 Cam had no injuries to speak of .. I'll give you '18 and '19 - that's still only two consecutive seasons. Lay off the Diet Cola.

Regardless , you intentionally or through cluelessness ignored or avoided the point, which was that asserting Cam’s future performance based on multiple significant injuries and high roster turnover not to mention coaching change is speculative at best. Thus the difference between the words when and if are the difference between being foolishly optimistic or not.

You are either willfully ignoring these things, or dense. Either way, I’m not gonna have sidetracked arguments with you because you want to avoid my point. Enjoy your day.

[(ATL'ien)CamNewton]

6 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Regardless , you intentionally or through cluelessness ignored or avoided the point, which was that asserting Cam’s future performance based on multiple significant injuries and high roster turnover not to mention coaching change is speculative at best. Thus the difference between the words when and if are the difference between being foolishly optimistic or not.

You are either willfully ignoring these things, or dense. Either way, I’m not gonna have sidetracked arguments with you because you want to avoid my point. Enjoy your day.

It's funny you mention coaching changes as one of the reasons Cam may not come back to form ..

A coaching change is the best thing that has ever happened to Cam. Tepper is literally catering to Cam Newton by bringing in this college coaching staff.

What did we all used to say - imagine if we brought in more of a college-style of offense for Cam.

[thefuzz]

10 minutes ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Regardless , you intentionally or through cluelessness ignored or avoided the point, which was that asserting Cam’s future performance based on multiple significant injuries and high roster turnover not to mention coaching change is speculative at best. Thus the difference between the words when and if are the difference between being foolishly optimistic or not.

You are either willfully ignoring these things, or dense. Either way, I’m not gonna have sidetracked arguments with you because you want to avoid my point. Enjoy your day.

I've been on this board for a long time now, longer than I really care to admit, and just the other day I put two huddlers on ignore.  Hadn't ever done that a single time until this past week...in well over a decade being here.

They guy you are chatting with was the first, it made my time here much more enjoyable, so I added another to see what would happen....know what?  Even better.

I'd give it a shot, but I would hate to steal your happiness if you enjoy correcting this guy.

[TheRed]

If you are a Panthers fan who doesn't believe in Cam there are plenty of nearby exits.

Also, there is a facebook community of angry old guys who would welcome you with open arms I'm sure.

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

If you are a Panthers fan who doesn't believe in Cam there are plenty of nearby exits.

Also, there is a facebook community of angry old guys who would welcome you with open arms I'm sure.

What does that mean?  Believe in?

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

What does that mean?  Believe in?

Why are you honing in on that of all things?

I really need to spell it out? Either you believe in him enough to give him an opportunity to lead the team for one more season or you don't. If it's clear he won't return to form then we draft another quarterback. You "just asking questions" types are insufferable.

[thefuzz]

Just now, TheRed said:

Why are you honing in on that of all things?

I really need to spell it out? Either you believe in him enough to give him an opportunity to lead the team for one more season or you don't. If it's clear he won't return to form then we draft another quarterback. You "just asking questions" types are insufferable.

Just not sure I follow that line of thinking.

If you don't "believe" that Cam can get back to full strength, then you need to hit the door.  That's pretty much what I'm hearing.

So someone who has had injuries long term, is starting to get up in age and realize that it's harder and harder to be able to do the things that you once could, no matter how hard you try, such as myself....who isn't 100% sold on Cam Newton being able to do the things that he once could, should just hit the bricks?

I guess using logic should be thrown out the window, you need blind faith?  Is that what you're saying?

I don't believe that Cam can get back to his record breaking days.  I believe that Cam Newton is a very good person, very good father, and was a very good football player, but I'm not 100% certain that his body will heal completely.

Soooo, I'll just excuse myself from being a fan of a team for a couple decades?

[1of10Charnatives]

14 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

It's funny you mention coaching changes as one of the reasons Cam may not come back to form ..

A coaching change is the best thing that has ever happened to Cam. Tepper is literally catering to Cam Newton by bringing in this college coaching staff.

What did we all used to say - imagine if we brought in more of a college-style of offense for Cam.

A coaching change MAY be the best thing that’s ever happened to Cam (count me amongst those who is optimistic it will be), but your statements continue to demonstrate either a fundamental lack of understanding of, or indifference to, the absurdity of asserting future possibilities as certainties.

Until we actually see Cam benefit from said change, it is not certain it is a change for the better.

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, thefuzz said:

Just not sure I follow that line of thinking.

If you don't "believe" that Cam can get back to full strength, then you need to hit the door.  That's pretty much what I'm hearing.

So someone who has had injuries long term, is starting to get up in age and realize that it's harder and harder to be able to do the things that you once could, no matter how hard you try, such as myself....who isn't 100% sold on Cam Newton being able to do the things that he once could, should just hit the bricks?

I guess using logic should be thrown out the window, you need blind faith?  Is that what you're saying?

I don't believe that Cam can get back to his record breaking days.  I believe that Cam Newton is a very good person, very good father, and was a very good football player, but I'm not 100% certain that his body will heal completely.

Soooo, I'll just excuse myself from being a fan of a team for a couple decades?

What's the other option? Intentionally tanking? You actually think players with their careers at risk are good with that? So what's left, Allen or Grier? Would you want to stick around for that if you were a player? Either we roll with a healthy Cam Newton or we make any moves necessary to acquire Burrow or a quarterback next year.

I'm getting the vibe you just want to argue to argue. I'm about the future of the franchise. What are you about?

[thefuzz]

1 minute ago, TheRed said:

What's the other option? Intentionally tanking? You actually think players with their careers at risk are good with that? So what's left, Allen or Grier? Would you want to stick around for that if you were a player? Either we roll with a healthy Cam Newton or we make any moves necessary to acquire Burrow or a quarterback next year.

I'm getting the vibe you just want to argue to argue. I'm about the future of the franchise. What are you about?

1:  Cam isn't healthy.

2:  Moving up for Burrow would crater the franchise over the next 3 years.

3:  I'm about the very best way I see this team contending for a Lombardi over the next 5-7 years, which is do a full rebuild, starting right now, and do it correctly.  Keeping Cam isn't doing it correctly, extending Shaq isn't doing it correctly, extending CMC this offseason isn't doing it correctly.  Now those are my opinions.

I think that is the very best way to get this franchise on the right track, if the rebuild is done correctly, although I seriously doubt that will happen so long as Tepper and Marty are up there on Mint St. playing together.

As to the tanking....well, we don't really have to try too hard at this point do we?  This team is awful.