Carolina sticking with Cam

[TheSpecialJuan]

this is indeed good news 

[NAS]

8 minutes ago, mjligon said:

Cringe worthy?

please explain how you took cringe worthy away from that

Because Cam has never been the one to try to send messages to front office through social media.  All these "messages" are making me cringe, especially since there is anger and frustration.   Despite these reports, I'm afraid Cam will be traded.  

[Daywa1ker]

Fantastic.

Now if this would just make all those people hoping and constantly posting otherwise come to their senses, this board would be a much better place.

[teeray]

3 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Except some of these reporters are actually employed by the very entity their reporting on (Rapoport, Garofolo, Pelissero and others, for example).

That too is a double edged sword. It means they get more access to inside information, but since they're working for the subject of their reports oh, how objective are they?

For me, I've got a pretty long history of following all of them. in my opinion, Ian Rapoport is one of the most trustworthy guys you'll find in the business. Doesn't mean he's always right, but he's good at what he does.

On the flipside, you've got a guy like Mike Florio. It's not that what Florio reports is always wrong or even mostly wrong. It's that he likes to stir sh-t up, and you always have to account for that when you're reading his stuff.

In the middle, you've got a guy like Jason LaCnfora. I've had him pegged as a 50-50 guy in the past, but over the past season nobody was as dialed in to the Panthers as he was.

But ultimately, again, it's sports. The fate of the world doesn't hang on any of this stuff and speculation comes with the territory. So if somebody reports something they believe is going to happen and it doesn't, is it really that big a deal?

I don't think so.

Fair

[Shocker]

In reality, we aren’t in a good spot to get the right QB in the draft so keeping him makes sense.  Plus, if he gets healthy and plays well his worth just increases.  No need to give him away.  We can’t get a first for him apparently.

[Mr. Scot]

9 minutes ago, teeray said:

But when you "navigate the bs" you are really just projecting your own beliefs onto whatever report you want to believe.  What you already don't believe becomes the "bs" by default. 

So if something "rings true" to your predispositions you'll likely give that report more credence then one that reports something you aren't predispositioned to agree with 

And I do same thing so I'm not pointing fingers here. But it's why a lot of this is a pointless endeavor and one of the reasons why you see so little of me around here these days.  Because no matter what, we are going to believe whatever reaffirms our own established beliefs. So what's the point? (That's rhetorical) 

Depends on how you judge.

Some people judge the validity of a report based on whether or not they like it or agree with it. That's not a good standard.

I prefer to judge based on track record, i.e. whether the reporter is someone I've typically seen be more right than wrong, or vice versa.

I see plenty of stories I don't like, but that doesn't mean they're invalid or not credible. For example, when the reports came out last year that Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera were going to be retained, I considered that very bad news.

But would attacking The credibility of the sources have made any difference?

No, especially not given that they were right.

It's not just a matter of navigating the bullsh-t. You've got to have the right GPS.

If your GPS is calibrated to what you want to hear, you're doing it wrong. Take your phone and move it in a figure 8 pattern until it calibrates around who you can trust and you're a lot less likely to get lost.

[Mr. Scot]

3 minutes ago, NAS said:

Because Cam has never been the one to try to send messages to front office through social media.  All these "messages" are making me cringe, especially since there is anger and frustration.   Despite these reports, I'm afraid Cam will be traded.  

Seeing that message in the context of the current situation, yeah it looks like a message to the front office.

Is it? I have no idea.

Said the same thing with the "fool" post. We can assume that it means something related to negotiations with the team, but we don't know that.

[Daywa1ker]

56 minutes ago, ickmule said:

Y'all realize this goes against what Tepper has been saying all along don't you? They have no idea if Cam is 100% yet and they have been telling us for months they have no idea what they will do until he is known to be 100%. This is another BS article. 

I dont think it does.  You're right that Tepper has said everything hinges on his health...and this is saying that they're liking what they're seeing in regards to his health.  I don't see any contradiction.

[teeray]

2 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Depends on how you judge.

Some people judge the validity of a report based on whether or not they like it or agree with it. That's not a good standard.

I prefer to judge based on track record, i.e. whether the reporter is someone I've typically seen be more right than wrong, or vice versa.

I see plenty of stories I don't like, but that doesn't mean they're invalid or not credible. For example, when the reports came out last year that Marty Hurney and Ron Rivera were going to be retained, I considered that very bad news.

But would attacking The credibility of the sources have made any difference?

No, especially not given that they were right.

It's not just a matter of navigating the bullsh-t. You've got to have the right GPS.

If your GPS is calibrated to what you want to hear oh, you're doing it wrong.

My GPS is good because I don't believe any of these mofos until the Panthers or Rhule confirm it. 

The rest is just hand wringing IMO. 

But I've also seen you give the benefit of the doubt to people who don't deserve it *cough Narwocki cough*

[Move the Panthers to Raleigh]

I don’t see the downside here. If Cam comes back and proves he can last a few more years, we are good. If he comes back and immediately goes down, we are in the running for Lawrence or whoever. 

[Bronn]

I legit just logged in to post this:

HAHA all you Cam haters can GTFO!

[TheRed]

The problem with this notion of us still possibly trading him is all the double talk makes us look desperate and further torpedoes his value the longer we drag it out.

If we do finally move him it will be for a lesser return when it's all said and done.

As others have said previously, the whole process is a little too amateurish.

[teeray]

Cam wants to be the Panther's QB

Most fans want Cam to be the Panther's QB

This should be an easy decision. 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, teeray said:

My GPS is good because I don't believe any of these mofos until the Panthers or Rhule confirm it. 

The rest is just hand wringing IMO. 

But I've also seen you give the benefit of the doubt to people who don't deserve it *cough Narwocki cough*

You only remember when we were talking about Newton being drafted. If you look back at posts where I compared to his work to the late Joel Buchsbaum, you'd see differently.

Either way, my whole take was it it wasn't race based. And truth be told, it wasn't even his takes. Nawrocki didn't do his own draft analysis. He just interviewed scouts and personnel people. and like with reporters today, some of them had agendas.

I'm guessing you never got a chance to read Buchsbaum's old draft profiles. I still have some in my library. Those sounded like they came directly from a professional scout.