Carolina sticking with Cam

[Riverboat Ron]

3 hours ago, ncfan said:

Now let's get him some protection.

Should of done that a couple kids ago...

[ncfan]

 

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, teeray said:

Which is why digging for insider scoops is pointless. So why even share? 

Because they're right pretty frequently.

[teeray]

29 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

The part that I really find odd is that when he went and consulted with the foot specialist that used to work for the Panthers, that guy told him he didn't need surgery.

Then a few months later, we get the announcement that he's having surgery.

Not sure what to make of that.

Because injuries often have multiple solutions, one being rest and the other being surgery. It's not always either or. And you can give yourself time to determine whether you want surgery or not. 

[teeray]

1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

Because they're right pretty frequently.

So we do know before something happens. Unless we don't? 

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, NAS said:

Whoa!  That was cringe-worthy

 

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Perhaps he’s talking about an extension?

I'm really not sure what to make of it.

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, teeray said:

So we do know before something happens. Unless we don't? 

They can only go by what they're told at any given time.

All of it's subject to change, it's coming from sources that usually have agendas and those sources aren't above putting out misinformation if it suits their purposes.

You just have to try your best to navigate through the bullsh-t.

[teeray]

42 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

Wrong.

And dude, chill out. They're not reporting on world affairs here. It's sports. Nobody's trying to be Walter Cronkite.

I'll repeat what I said in an earlier post...

Sometimes teams change their minds.

Sometimes players change their minds.

Sometimes agents deliberately put out misinformation to help their clients.

Sometimes teams deliberately put out misinformation to help themselves.

Sometimes circumstances change and what a team or player wanted to do isn't the best thing to do anymore.

Any one of these things and a dozen more can cause storylines to change, and none of them are the fault of the people that report them.

Sports reporting involves a lot of speculation and a huge amount of going by what you're told. That's just the nature of the business.

Thinking that's a sign of some kind of crisis in journalistic integrity is silly.

In wrestling this is called the "plans changed" blanket defense. 

It allows insiders to be wrong or misreport or mislead to try and get ahead on scoop with shifting the blame from yourself or your sources to the team or company. 

So I can say "Panthers are shopping Cam Newton" to "plans changed and now they are going into the season as Panthers QB" and presto you were never wrong. Hands clean

This is especially effective when you are trying to report based on tea reading instead of solid info.  Gives you cover. And if you are right you can use that to bolster your insider cred. If you're wrong you weren't wrong, something changed. 

[therealmjl]

11 minutes ago, NAS said:

Whoa!  That was cringe-worthy

Cringe worthy?

please explain how you took cringe worthy away from that

[Mr. Scot]

5 minutes ago, teeray said:

Because injuries often have multiple solutions, one being rest and the other being surgery. It's not always either or. And you can give yourself time to determine whether you want surgery or not. 

Having dealt with doctors more than I ever wanted to, I can agree to that.

It's also true that despite what you see on television, doctors don't know everything and don't always have the right answer.

[TheSpecialJuan]

Jeremy Fowler

 

@JFowlerESPN

 

What I know about Cam Newton situation: Panthers prepared to bring him into May/June team workouts but will keep options open, coach Matt Rhule excited to see where he is in March, won't be moved by any artificial deadlines (such as FA), team intrigued by 2021 QB draft class.

9:32 AM · Feb 25, 2020

[pantherclaw]

4 hours ago, ncfan said:

Now let's get him some protection.

Orders full body condoms. 

[teeray]

7 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

They can only go by what they're told at any given time.

All of it's subject to change, it's coming from sources that usually have agendas and those sources aren't above putting out misinformation if it suits their purposes.

You just have to try your best to navigate through the bullsh-t.

But when you "navigate the bs" you are really just projecting your own beliefs onto whatever report you want to believe.  What you already don't believe becomes the "bs" by default. 

So if something "rings true" to your predispositions you'll likely give that report more credence then one that reports something you aren't predispositioned to agree with 

And I do same thing so I'm not pointing fingers here. But it's why a lot of this is a pointless endeavor and one of the reasons why you see so little of me around here these days.  Because no matter what, we are going to believe whatever reaffirms our own established beliefs. So what's the point? (That's rhetorical) 

[Mr. Scot]

2 minutes ago, teeray said:

In wrestling this is called the "plans changed" blanket defense. 

It allows insiders to be wrong or misreport or mislead to try and get ahead on scoop with shifting the blame from yourself or your sources to the team or company. 

So I can say "Panthers are shopping Cam Newton" to "plans changed and now they are going into the season as Panthers QB" and presto you were never wrong. Hands clean

This is especially effective when you are trying to report based on tea reading instead of solid info.  Gives you cover. And if you are right you can use that to bolster your insider cred. If your wrong you weren't wrong, something changed. 

Except some of these reporters are actually employed by the very entity their reporting on (Rapoport, Garofolo, Pelissero and others, for example).

That too is a double edged sword. It means they get more access to inside information, but since they're working for the subject of their reports oh, how objective are they?

For me, I've got a pretty long history of following all of them. in my opinion, Ian Rapoport is one of the most trustworthy guys you'll find in the business. Doesn't mean he's always right, but he's good at what he does.

On the flipside, you've got a guy like Mike Florio. It's not that what Florio reports is always wrong or even mostly wrong. It's that he likes to stir sh-t up, and you always have to account for that when you're reading his stuff.

In the middle, you've got a guy like Jason LaCnfora. I've had him pegged as a 50-50 guy in the past, but over the past season nobody was as dialed in to the Panthers as he was.

But ultimately, again, it's sports. The fate of the world doesn't hang on any of this stuff and speculation comes with the territory. So if somebody reports something they believe is going to happen and it doesn't, is it really that big a deal?

I don't think so.