Kyle Allen #32 with deep ball accuracy

[Khyber53]

39 minutes ago, lightsout said:

Don't see the Kyle Allen hate. He's not Cam with his deep ball.....there aren't many of those in the history of the league in terms of pure arm strength. I've said it since Cam's MVP season when there were people still saying he was bailed out by his defense, a large swath of this fanbase is absolutely spoiled by Cam Newton. THAT level of play is now mandatory and anything less is seen as insufficient.

What happened to cause Allen's drop in play? I think it was partly a rookie QB getting schemed and not adjusting well and not finding timing on deep routes (fact) and part OL crumbling and changing every couple weeks (fact). People like overlooking Cam's constant accuracy issues deep. He threw a lot more because he has the arm, but he wasn't perfect deep. No QB is nor should they be expected to be. Allen can push the ball too. Not as accurate as Cam at it, but then Cam has more natural talent along with more experience.

Cam healthy could absolutely overcome team issues to make plays and probably win us a few of those games we lost with Allen on his own, for sure. But that sort of play is the exception because 100% healthy Cam is exceptional. Allen couldn't do it, but that doesn't mean he's bad. It means he's young and the OL that Cam has been able to play around his whole career was not good enough for Kyle. That's all.

Given more time and better, more consistent protection, and a lot of reps getting his deep timing down, Allen looks good IMO. He tried to be too precise on his deep ball and it bit him over and over again. Norv even said as much at one point. We saw a handful of deep balls that were accurate and on time and when caught, everybody just said "that was a nice catch". Well yeah, but that wasn't because the throw was bad either. Allen short to medium was pretty spot on.

Cam healthy > Allen. For sure. Really think that Joe Brady could work wonders with Allen and Grier though. They're young. If Cam doesn't work out for whatever reason, I'm confident in our QB situation regardless of who it is GIVEN that the OL is addressed and corrected.

Yeah. And also it was a (basically) rookie QB whose coach was fired mid-season and was left with a handful of players who were still trying, a broken offensive line and an entire defense that pretty much quit doing anything except trying to get meaningless sacks to pad their resumes with.

Was he great? For a few games there, yeah, the kid played lights out. Then did it go downhill? Yeah, it did, and there was no coaching or decent game planning going on. And if you remember, the kid was able to make a comeback at Lambeau in the snow and would have won if the defense had been able to even slow down the run.