Panthers owner to PSL owners: Success “won’t happen overnight”

[blackcat]

We lose Luke, Olsen, and hire a new coaching staff.  Yeah, we're gonna suck, no surprises there.

[Pantherzack179812]

2 hours ago, WOW!! said:

I shouldn't have to pay regular prices for your risk then..

Do things to elevate your consumer risk..

Lower prices 

Bring in ppl with "pro" experiences and a history of "pro" success...

Do nothing?? No .. There are alot of examples of rebuilding plans that don't include you tanking...

1. Give Cam a chance.. If he gets hurt then you still get to that point without trying to..

2. Hire ppl that gives the fan base more faith in your plan...

3. Lower your prices so ppl aren't paying high prices for sub par crap...

4. Do what you have to to get a QB this year...

Single game tickets will not be regular priced. They were discounting them in December... When you buy PSLs, you agree to pay the face price for every game. Don't like it? Give up the seats.  True fans want to go to games even when they suck, NFL ticket prices don't fluctuate based on record.

[Mr. Scot]

4 minutes ago, TheRed said:

You're nuts. I'd trade about anything to have a Lombardi trophy in the Carolinas. If not for the Falcons collapse we would be the lone team in the division without one.

It's like opening your Christmas presents early. Sounds good at the time, but you'll regret it later.

Or choosing to be Right Said Fred when you could be Aerosmith. Why be a one hit wonder when you could be more if you're just willing to work for it?

[top dawg]

Mr. Tepper, an NFL franchise is not a "program." 

Who is your PR person?

[WOW!!]

8 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Jimmy Clausen getting thrown out for Cam newton in less then 365 destroyed that kids career. He took 14 a$$whippings,  he was never ready to be a full time starter year 1. 

I have 2 thoughts on this...

1. Cream Rising to the top.. If you're good at what you do.. No matter the situation you will raise your level to elevate ppl around you.. 

2. Some players are just not meant to be successful... If the only way you succeed is having everything perfect around you.. When nothing is always perfect around you.. Maybe you're not that good...

[Rags]

6 hours ago, mjligon said:

except that in today's NFL quick turnarounds are the complete norm. 

Name one team that has had a quick turnaround but sustained success.

I'm not saying Teppers plan is fool proof, but the Eagles, Vikings, Jaguars, Bears, Broncos, hell even us the wheels are coming off or have already come off.

He's thinking big picture, not a one and done ring.

[djp14]

Just now, Mr. Scot said:

It's like opening your Christmas presents early. Or choosing to be Right Said Fred when you could be Aerosmith.

Why be a one hit wonder when you could be more if you're just willing to work for it?

Sounds good at the time, but you'll regret it later.

Problem is, we're currently a no-hit wonder.

Super Bowl 50 would've been a lot easier to swallow if we had sealed the deal in Super Bowl 38.

I'm in my mid-50's. I just wanna see us win one before I croak.

[Pantherzack179812]

16 minutes ago, WOW!! said:

Take the fine then... Worry about your fanbase and financial base above the league... And teams set their prices not the league.. So he can give his fans relief as they support his tanking effort...

This happens all the time.. If a restaurant is trying out a new menu option they give you a deal on it.. They don't charge regularly prices for something they know has a risk to fail badly..

Then people won't renew their tickets. I could see many PSL owners having a problem with saying, we're giving you 15% off your $2,000+ dollar bill because we suck. The Panthers may intend to get their QB of the future at #7 and move up, that could cause optimism.

[Panther'sBigD]

2 minutes ago, Rags said:

Name one team that has had a quick turnaround but sustained success.

I'm not saying Teppers plan is fool proof, but the Eagles, Vikings, Jaguars, Bears, etc. The wheels are coming off.

He's thinking big picture, not a one and done ring.

LOL, you must have skipped ahead to the end of this thread...

[Mr. Scot]

Just now, djp14 said:

Problem is, we're currently a no-hit wonder.

Super Bowl 50 would've been a lot easier to swallow if we had sealed the deal in Super Bowl 38.

I'm in my mid-50's. I just wanna see us win one before I croak.

I'll be 53 shortly.

I wanna see us win too. The problem though is that if you go for broke for a single season and don't win it, then you're stuck with all the losing seasons that follow for nothing.

I'd rather do it the right way.

[Rags]

1 minute ago, Panther'sBigD said:

LOL, you must have skipped ahead to the end of this thread...

I read the first post and made a reply.

I don't care to read 11 pages of huddle nonsense. I can only take that poo in small doses.

[WOW!!]

4 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Single game tickets will not be regular priced. They were discounting them in December... When you buy PSLs, you agree to pay the face price for every game. Don't like it? Give up the seats.  True fans want to go to games even when they suck, NFL ticket prices don't fluctuate based on record.

Cool alot of ppl will and are starting to do so off the letter alone...

fug your true fan bull poo... That is the stupidest poo I ever heard in my life... I don't blame anybody in this economy and having to live and work day to day... To have standards in what they want to spend their entertainment dollars on... You end up like the fuging Knicks paying for a subpar product and nobody caring to make the "right" changes because they are going to make their money no matter what effort they put into it...

A real fans support teams that are trying to succeed no matter what... Not supporting crap no matter what...

[Pantherzack179812]

1 minute ago, WOW!! said:

I have 2 thoughts on this...

1. Cream Rising to the top.. If you're good at what you do.. No matter the situation you will raise your level to elevate ppl around you.. 

2. Some players are just not meant to be successful... If the only way you succeed is having everything perfect around you.. When nothing is always perfect around you.. Maybe you're not that good...

John Fox was obviously halfway out the door and likely had no care for JC. Even if JC was slightly better at camp, there was no way the organization was putting out the 2nd round pick from last year who was 1-11 as a starter over the #1 overall pick. The NFL is more political then you think, imagine the revolt of this fanbase if Clausen went out there and got killed again in 2011 while Cam sat. 

You're seeing why now in 2020 why Jimmy Clausen never had a chance to be successful, The offensive line was terrible, Jordan Gross wasn't giving him all day to throw by himself. The man who replaced him is broken into 1000 pieces... I'm not saying Clausen had a chance to be a franchise QB, but he was brought in as a backup everywhere else he went behind a solidified QB. Getting hit 1000 times and losing 11 football games in one season while having a whole city calling for your head is terrible on any QB, much less a rookie.

 

I don't think the 2010 Panthers were trying to tank, the 4th game of the year, they lost to a Saints team who finished 11-5 by 2 points in the superdome. 

[WOW!!]

7 minutes ago, Pantherzack179812 said:

Then people won't renew their tickets. I could see many PSL owners having a problem with saying, we're giving you 15% off your $2,000+ dollar bill because we suck. The Panthers may intend to get their QB of the future at #7 and move up, that could cause optimism.

Exactly you still have to do things that give ppl faith... You can't just admit you're tanking give away notable players and plan to start crap and expect ppl to want to pay to watch that crap...