CMC Trade Talk (Might as well get it out there)

[WarHeel]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

I am not flaming, I am legitimately questioning how much you have watched Mahomes play. The kid only won the MVP his first full starting season and the Super Bowl the next. 

Not as much as some of you I’m sure. But I would give it at least one more season with some potential adversity before I drop the “elite” adjective. “Great?” Sure. Elite, with time perhaps.

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

One great season *Shrugs*
A little bit of a tangent to the original point that it’s a stupid fuging idea to trade CMC.

These CMC fanboys are an odd bunch. Dudes were doing circles celebrating the 1k/1k record in a 5 win season, but now it's time to diminish the accomplishments of a Super Bowl champion? Get the fug out of here.

[TheRumGone]

Dude is the Michael Jordan of the nfl. Never seen anyone do the stuff that dude can do. And for a Brett favreish heaver he doesn’t throw picks. He can throw that ball at any angle. He can evade in the pocket, run out of the pocket, run the ball for tds and first downs. It’s like mixing brett farve with Aaron Rodgers, with Tom Brady clutch gene. He’s a fuging video game.

[pantherclaw]

7 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

Considering the fate of the recent "face of the franchise" players we have had, I am not sure that is the justification I would use. 

I'm not justifying anything. 

I'm stating what is. 

 

[Porn Shop Clerk]

2 minutes ago, TheRed said:

These CMC fanboys are an odd bunch. Dudes were doing circles celebrating the 1k/1k record in a 5 win season, but now it's time to diminish the accomplishments of a Super Bowl champion? Get the fug out of here.

these idiots act like franchise qbs grow on trees but running backs are irreplaceable 

[kungfoodude]

5 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

Not as much as some of you I’m sure. But I would give it at least one more season with some potential adversity before I drop the “elite” adjective. “Great?” Sure. Elite, with time perhaps.

You mean like hobbling around about a quarter of the season with knee and ankle injuries and winning a Super Bowl? Or did you mean staging big comebacks in every single playoff game to win? That kind of adversity?

Again, I think maybe you just don't have a good grasp of what an elite QB looks like.

[stirs]

This is the "play the Huddle like a fiddle" thread

[JawnyBlaze]

32 minutes ago, davos said:

I dunno JB.  Current holes where we have obvious vacancies or desperately need upgrades... 

One thing I think is being somewhat overlooked is that even if Rhule is just an ok NFL head coach, we don’t NEED as much talent as we needed before when our coaching staff was a handicap. Players like Cam, Olsen, Luke, Short, Star, TD, Norman, CJ, Hardy, etc. carried Ron and co. kicking and screaming to relevance.

Even look at the 49ers team that actually went to the SB, they don’t have that much talent tbh. They have one good skill player on offense in Kittle (who I really wanted the year he was drafted, was hoping we’d take him in the round before he was taken), a solid OL, a lot of first round picks on the DL who are good but no stars except probably Bosa, an over the hill star in Sherman, and the rest are mostly role players who are really well coached.  The talent gap between them and us isn’t that large. 

[davos]

7 minutes ago, JawnyBlaze said:

Yea I just disagree with where we are desperate. No team is great at every spot. The holes I’d identify on offense: LT, C, maybe also RT and WR3. On defense: DT (maybe x2 depending on what happens with Short and McCoy), DE, MLB and a S. If Bradberry walks, also a CB. 
 

Don’t need to be elite at TE, and Thomas has looked as good as at least half the league’s TEs when given playing time. We can grab half of our needs relatively cheap in FA and later round picks (LBs, WR3, maybe S). LT in the 1st, DT/DE in the second, whichever we didn’t get be a mild splash FA signing. C in the 3rd. Only leaves a CB from my list, and maybe RT. If we let Bradberry walk we should be able to get a serviceable one for much cheaper in FA. 

I really like the idea of targeting an elite TE.  I could see Thomas turning into a Darren Waller type situation for us though so I am hopeful.  Would absolutely love a Hunter Henry-CMC-DJ Moore situation if we can solidify the OL and get a good situation at QB. 

Overall, the big splashes need to be the new building blocks which would be OL, DL, and playmakers that are high % snap/game types. 

[JawnyBlaze]

1 minute ago, davos said:

I really like the idea of targeting an elite TE.  I could see Thomas turning into a Darren Waller type situation for us though so I am hopeful.  Would absolutely love a Hunter Henry-CMC-DJ Moore situation if we can solidify the OL and get a good situation at QB. 

Overall, the big splashes need to be the new building blocks which would be OL, DL, and playmakers that are high % snap/game types. 

Agreed. We solidify the lines, we’re in business. A couple pieces on each side can do that I think. 

[TheRed]

5 minutes ago, stirs said:

This is the "play the Huddle like a fiddle" thread

 

 

[BrizzMachete]

I mean if you trade cam why not look and at least see if you can get two first rd picks for him. You can’t half ass a rebuild if that’s truly the mission . This team as of right now has no interest in winning . This Matt Rhule era is gonna be uhhh interesting 

[WarHeel]

20 minutes ago, TheRed said:

These CMC fanboys are an odd bunch. Dudes were doing circles celebrating the 1k/1k record in a 5 win season, but now it's time to diminish the accomplishments of a Super Bowl champion? Get the fug out of here.

Didn’t realize I was diminishing him by saying he was great and had a great season. You certainly have a way of twisting words to fit your narrative .

[WarHeel]

17 minutes ago, kungfoodude said:

You mean like hobbling around about a quarter of the season with knee and ankle injuries and winning a Super Bowl? Or did you mean staging big comebacks in every single playoff game to win? That kind of adversity?

Again, I think maybe you just don't have a good grasp of what an elite QB looks like.

I’m way down the list of people on the Huddle that need to hear this message. Lol