Rappaport on the pending trade market for Cam

[saX man]

If we want to go full Madden, let's have some fun, insanity option A (And I'm having fun but do expect the poo haha):

• Cam Newton and our 4th rounder for pick 19 (Vegas)
• CMC and Pick 7 for Pick 3 and Detroit's 4th Rounder
• So we'll have 1-3, 1-19, 2-7, 3-7, 4-3
• Tua, OT, DT, WR, C

 

 

[Madwolf]

15 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

Why does it matter if he’s useful during a rebuild? We’re not winning so who cares. The end of his contract aligns with when we figure to start fielding consistent teams. The point is to get to that consistency sooner rather than later which is why people are for trading him. Securing some 1st and 2nd round picks to reinvest in positions that actually equate to winning. Like franchise LTs, or DTs or edge rushers, ect.

This is ironic and part of the reason people want to trade cmc. Running backs have most of the shortest career spans in the NFL. You guys are the ones taking this personally. Some of us are trying to be smart about how we think we should build a contender in the quickest possible way. What is the point of having a 100+ million dollar rb in a rebuild? Why not use those assets we could get from him right now to secure franchise players at positions of extreme importance? Seems like y’all are the emotional ones.

A few reasons this is still batshit insane:

• Mainly whoever you replace CMC with is likely going to be almost the same age as he is right now.
• Having a good RB doesn't prevent you from drafting a good QB. How these two are somehow linked is beyond me.
• CMC will only be halfway through his career, and in his prime by the time that we have a shot at the playoffs and competing again, if all goes well.
• Who the fudge are we paying that's going to be here in 3 years where contract is at all a concern? 
• Whoever you draft has a VERY low chance of ever being as good as CMC is, regardless of position. He currently is a generational talent.

[Mage]

2 hours ago, joeyxfresco said:

Why would Carolina trade a healthy Cam if he’s willing to play out the last year of his contract?

We are trying to tank.  It’s obvious.

[TheRed]

19 minutes ago, TheRumGone said:

 

This is ironic and part of the reason people want to trade cmc. Running backs have most of the shortest career spans in the NFL. You guys are the ones taking this personally. Some of us are trying to be smart about how we think we should build a contender in the quickest possible way. What is the point of having a 100+ million dollar rb in a rebuild? Why not use those assets we could get from him right now to secure franchise players at positions of extreme importance? Seems like y’all are the emotional ones.

It's the white RB thing. We both know it.

[Madwolf]

2 minutes ago, saX man said:

If we want to go full Madden, let's have some fun, insanity option A (And I'm having fun but do expect the poo haha):

• Cam Newton and our 4th rounder for pick 19 (Vegas)
• CMC and Pick 7 for Pick 3 and Detroit's 4th Rounder
• So we'll have 1-3, 1-19, 2-7, 3-7, 4-3
• Tua, OT, DT, WR, C

 

 

Ah yes, another vote for getting rid of our injury prone QB, and drafting an injury prone QB.

Then we follow it up by trading away a great RB and pass catcher who could help that rookie QB immensely in not taking pressure and being in 3rd and forever situations.

This

Is

Not

Madden

[MHS831]

2 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

Cam no longer has to carry a bunch of nobodies on offense .. do you not get that?

Ryan Kalil, Tre Turner, Steve Smith, Greg Olsen, Jordan Gross, Jonathan Stewart....who?

[JawnyBlaze]

1 hour ago, Cracka McNasty said:

Drew Brees wasn't coming of 2 season ending injuries in 4 years. 

Neither was Tom Brady. They also weren't rebuilding. They haven't had to rebuild in 2 decades. 

Fify 

 

‘17 and ‘18 were the same injury, they just tried to rehab through it. Cam’s had two major injuries in his career, one just happened to come right on the heels of the other. Doesn’t make him injury prone. They were completely unrelated injuries.  

[Call Me James]

Wait, we're going to trade away a franchise quarterback to upgrade the positions you need to surround a franchise QB with only to not have a franchise QB. 

 

This site is full of morons

[unicar15]

3 hours ago, joeyxfresco said:

Why would Carolina trade a healthy Cam if he’s willing to play out the last year of his contract?

It’s when not if Cam gets hurt again behind our line and with his playing style. If he works out well then you move on and continue a rebuild. 

[TheRumGone]

2 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

A few reasons this is still batshit insane:

• Mainly whoever you replace CMC with is likely going to be almost the same age as he is right now.
• Whoever you draft has a VERY low chance of ever being as good as CMC is, regardless of position. He currently is a generational talent.

It literally doesn’t matter who we replace cmc with right now because this team is a dumpster fire. The running back position is devalued to the point where the two teams in the Super Bowl had a running back by committee. Because you don’t put a ton of your resources into a position where the likelihood of them getting hurt is far greater than most positions and their careers have some of the shortest spans.

With CMC being the focal point of the team and having a statistical season that only two other players in history have ever had led us to being 5-11. He arguably had the greatest season ever by a running back and we only won 5 games. His play doesn’t translate to wins on a team that lacks talent. And we are going to have even less known talent on this team next year.

8 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

• Having a good RB doesn't prevent you from drafting a good QB. How these two are somehow linked is beyond me

Nobody said that. What people are saying is trading cmc for assets gives you the ability to move up to secure a franchise player without stripping away much needed picks to fill out the rest of the team with talent. It gives you a better opportunity. Not that it’s the only way. poo we might get lucky and draft the next mahomes at 7. But the odds are stacked against that. It’s rare.

 

11 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

• CMC will only be halfway through his career, and in his prime by the time that we have a shot at the playoffs and competing again, if all goes well.

I don’t see it. We are too devoid of talent and hitting on draft picks isn’t a 100% sure thing. Which is why I advocate for gettIng as many picks as we can. I see this as a four or five year rebuild if we’re lucky. Which means cmc will be 27 or 28. The way we work cmc he will more than likely be done as a 1k runner. I can see some value in him as a slot receiver when he’s older but I don’t see how 4 or 5 years down the road that’s worth it if we secure 1st and 2nd round picks for him right now.

 

14 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

• Who the fudge are we paying that's going to be here in 3 years where contract is at all a concern?

It’s not that. It’s just what’s the point of giving him that contract if we’re rebuilding? I guess we can have like a Maurice Jones Drew in Jacksonville situation here but who fuvking cares. Get the picks from him so we have a better chance at securing franchise talent at POSITIONS that equate to winning. Not fuging running backs. Then surround those franchise players with solid and splash type free agent signings. 

this franchise has been obsessed with linebackers and running backs. We are in desperate need for a change in philosophy.

[saX man]

20 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

Ah yes, another vote for getting rid of our injury prone QB, and drafting an injury prone QB.

Then we follow it up by trading away a great RB and pass catcher who could help that rookie QB immensely in not taking pressure and being in 3rd and forever situations.

This

Is

Not

Madden

I legit prefaced it by saying I wasn’t serious and playing madden. Cmon man. Get it together!

[Brooklyn 3.0]

2 hours ago, TheRed said:

Going 1-5 in the division and finishing on an eight game losing streak says otherwise.

You need a QB.

No, to do 1000/1000 he doesn't. Didn't say anything about the team winning, lol.

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, Brooklyn 3.0 said:

No, to do 1000/1000 he doesn't. Didn't say anything about the team winning, lol.

What good did that 1,000/1,000 talk do for us with the game on the line against the Bucs in Charlotte? We couldn't get one yard.

[stbugs]

3 hours ago, GOOGLE JIM BOB COOTER said:

no reason to trade cam and keep mccaffrey. looking forward to seeing what we get for the two. thinking a 2nd rounder for each? im sure we will be competitive again in no time with that haul

This makes no sense. CMC is under contract for another year plus and a 5th year. Even if we extend him 5 more years, he’s still 2 years younger in the last deal of the extension than Cam is now.

Why is it so hard to get the 5 year plan that people like Gross have mentioned and realize that CMC fits that and Cam with only one year left does not? I don’t know if we will trade Cam and it’s not up to me but it’s silly to act like there’s not a difference between the two.

I always bring up DJ Moore because he’s 1 year younger than CMC so basically the same. CMC is always brought up by the people who think people OK with Cam being traded are OK with it because we must want a white QB. Moore and CMC should be kept solely based on their age and being weapons for the rebuild.