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“A great developer of talent...”(the best).

Harbingers

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Waldo Grand Master

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Out of Tepper, Hurney and Rhule I am least concerned with Rhule as this process unfolds. Tepper's meddling and kowledge/skills level combined with Hurney's known and documented issues is what I find alarming.

Anyways, too little information yet. Once the draft is over, a lot more will be known.

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Harbingers Grand Master

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16 minutes ago, sml1950 said:

So Rhule goes to schools where he is recruiting 1,2, and maybe 3 star athletes who are rated that way because they are slower and smaller than the 3-5 stars that he is playing against.  He almost gets to the National Championship and he is dissed because the players can’t make the jump to the pros.  He’s either a great coach of ragtag players against lousy coaches with better players or he did a pretty damn good job of improving the level that came into the school.  NFL drafting is based more on height, weights, and speed by position than just being a good football player.  This is EXACTLY why Rhule said in his initial interview that he can’t wait to see how he does on an equal playing field.

I really hope you reread that entire thing and figure out where you are wrong. For your sake. 

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3 hours ago, Harbingers said:

So how many of rhules players have had success in the NFL? 

We already know he never beat a ranked team in college. 

Context means a lot. In context for where he’s been and how he’s developed the programs Matt Rhule hasn’t just done a good job he’s done an amazing job. Maybe the most impressive coaching the last few years in college football.
 

Yeah he hasn’t competed for a national championship, but the places he coached might as well not be in the same league as your regular playoff contenders. No matter how good of a job he does, you’re not gonna get five star recruits at either of the colleges he’s been to, so the talent gap between him and the teams he competes with is bigger than What can be overcome by coaching.

A good recruiting class for the schools he came from would be getting a few three star recruits. Him getting any of those guys into the NFL is nothing shy of a miracle. Bigger programs have already turned those players down because those programs thought the player didn’t have the talent. 
for perspective, you could say Alabama‘s second string is better than his first string players at Baylor.

with the level of talent Rhule has had, there is no other way to explain his success other than purely amazing.

my issue with Matt Rhule, is I like known quantities. And I simply don’t know what to expect from him right now. His resume is amazing, but I have no idea how his coaching is going to translate to the NFL. Or if it will at all.

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Just now, Harbingers said:

Not really. But than when cam is canned you’ll flip your poo for months. So maybe don’t fight people trying to help your cause. 

I don't think the two situations really compare. On the average in the NFL coaches typically tend to come and go, guys like Belichick who make it through the long haul for two decades are clearly rare. Franchise defining players like Cam Newton and Luke Kuechly moving on will always elicit strong reactions.

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Happy Panther Grand Master

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14 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

So can anyone actually post the players drafted(or undrafted that made 2.5 years) that rhule has coached or are we just going to keep hyperbolizing?

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Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2015 Kenneth Harper RB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Giants)
2016 Tavon Young CB 4th 104th overall Baltimore Ravens
2016 Matt Ioannidis DE 5th 152nd overall Washington Redskins
2016 Tyler Matakevich LB 7th 246th overall Pittsburgh Steelers
2016 Robby Anderson WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Kyle Friend C N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Shahbaz Ahmed OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Atlanta Falcons)
2016 Brandon Shippen WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Miami Dolphins)
2017 Haason Reddick LB 1st 13th overall Arizona Cardinals
2017 Dion Dawkins G 2nd 63rd overall Buffalo Bills
2017 Nate Hairston CB 5th 158th overall Indianapolis Colts

Baylor[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2019 Jalen Hurd WR 3rd 67th overall San Francisco 49ers
2019 Derrek Thomas CB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Seattle Seahawks)
2019 Greg Roberts DE N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Green Bay Packers)
2019 Ira Lewis DT N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Houston Texans)
2019 Blake Blackmar OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Chicago Bears)
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10 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Temple[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2015 Kenneth Harper RB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Giants)
2016 Tavon Young CB 4th 104th overall Baltimore Ravens
2016 Matt Ioannidis DE 5th 152nd overall Washington Redskins
2016 Tyler Matakevich LB 7th 246th overall Pittsburgh Steelers
2016 Robby Anderson WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Kyle Friend C N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Shahbaz Ahmed OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Atlanta Falcons)
2016 Brandon Shippen WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Miami Dolphins)
2017 Haason Reddick LB 1st 13th overall Arizona Cardinals
2017 Dion Dawkins G 2nd 63rd overall Buffalo Bills
2017 Nate Hairston CB 5th 158th overall Indianapolis Colts

Baylor[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2019 Jalen Hurd WR 3rd 67th overall San Francisco 49ers
2019 Derrek Thomas CB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Seattle Seahawks)
2019 Greg Roberts DE N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Green Bay Packers)
2019 Ira Lewis DT N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Houston Texans)
2019 Blake Blackmar OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Chicago Bears)

Poor Harbingers

 

Nice work Happy

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Harbingers Grand Master

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16 minutes ago, Happy Panther said:

Temple[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2015 Kenneth Harper RB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Giants)
2016 Tavon Young CB 4th 104th overall Baltimore Ravens
2016 Matt Ioannidis DE 5th 152nd overall Washington Redskins
2016 Tyler Matakevich LB 7th 246th overall Pittsburgh Steelers
2016 Robby Anderson WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Kyle Friend C N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Shahbaz Ahmed OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Atlanta Falcons)
2016 Brandon Shippen WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Miami Dolphins)
2017 Haason Reddick LB 1st 13th overall Arizona Cardinals
2017 Dion Dawkins G 2nd 63rd overall Buffalo Bills
2017 Nate Hairston CB 5th 158th overall Indianapolis Colts

Baylor[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2019 Jalen Hurd WR 3rd 67th overall San Francisco 49ers
2019 Derrek Thomas CB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Seattle Seahawks)
2019 Greg Roberts DE N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Green Bay Packers)
2019 Ira Lewis DT N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Houston Texans)
2019 Blake Blackmar OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Chicago Bears)

Good Man! That’s what I pulled but it didn’t have the UDFA. 

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3 hours ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

To be honest .. I believe the only thing that will make Rhule look like a good HC is having a healthy Cam Newton

Have to think if Cam is back, Rhule and Brady even, will defer to Cam, who has a decade of NFL experience while Rhule/Brady have next to none

Stupid.

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15 hours ago, Happy Panther said:

Temple[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2015 Kenneth Harper RB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Giants)
2016 Tavon Young CB 4th 104th overall Baltimore Ravens
2016 Matt Ioannidis DE 5th 152nd overall Washington Redskins
2016 Tyler Matakevich LB 7th 246th overall Pittsburgh Steelers
2016 Robby Anderson WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Kyle Friend C N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with New York Jets)
2016 Shahbaz Ahmed OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Atlanta Falcons)
2016 Brandon Shippen WR N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Miami Dolphins)
2017 Haason Reddick LB 1st 13th overall Arizona Cardinals
2017 Dion Dawkins G 2nd 63rd overall Buffalo Bills
2017 Nate Hairston CB 5th 158th overall Indianapolis Colts

Baylor[edit]

Draft Year Player Name Position Round Pick Team
2019 Jalen Hurd WR 3rd 67th overall San Francisco 49ers
2019 Derrek Thomas CB N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Seattle Seahawks)
2019 Greg Roberts DE N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Green Bay Packers)
2019 Ira Lewis DT N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Houston Texans)
2019 Blake Blackmar OG N/A N/A Undrafted (signed with Chicago Bears)

Buncha JAGs

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