“A great developer of talent...”(the best).

[Tbe]

8 minutes ago, (ATL'ien)CamNewton said:

To be honest .. I believe the only thing that will make Rhule look like a good HC is having a healthy Cam Newton

Have to think if Cam is back, Rhule and Brady even, will defer to Cam, who has a decade of NFL experience while Rhule/Brady have next to none

This is a shocking and fresh take from you.

[45catfan]

I was against Rhule for the simple fact college coaches in the past 25-years or so making the jump to the NFL have flamed out.  I'm willing to give the guy a fair shake, but to the OPs question, the college system sucks for parity.  The college structure loathes parity and the reason I don't watch more college football.   To that end, for Rhule to have this massive resume of sending walk-ons and 3-star recruits (at best) to the NFL is a failed criterion/predictor of his abilities.

If Rhule fails here in Carolina, it's not because he didn't send more Owls or Bears to the NFL.

[SmokinwithWilly]

36 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

The go to big name schools because they know the program will be better. It will afford them more opportunities to prove themselves. It’s up to the players after the program what to do with themselves. So far not a lot of rhule people have done anything football-wise. 

Players that can get scholarships to the big name schools aren't beating down the doors to get into Baylor or Temple. Of course those programs are better, they have far more talent. Building success with much less does prove Rhule can build a successful program. How that translates to the NFL remains to be seen, but he has shown he can do it where the gap between talent and the ability to acquire that talent is much greater than in the NFL.

[onmyown]

You guys wanted to take a risk. Sick of mediocre safe choices. With that in mind and who was available what did you guys expect? Who did you guys want? We snatched the Giants target and then and went and snatched of the best best OCs. Yea there’s risk...that’s the point. I’m happy to take the risk. It could blow up, but we’re in the bottom of the south already it’s almost certain we get better.

Just give it a chance and wait and see.

[Harbingers]

3 minutes ago, onmyown said:

You guys wanted to take a risk. Sick of mediocre safe choices. With that in mind and who was available what did you guys expect? Who did you guys want? We snatched the Giants target and then and went and snatched of the best best OCs. Yea there’s risk...that’s the point. I’m happy to take the risk. It could blow up, but we’re in the bottom of the south already it’s almost certain we get better.

Just give it a chance and wait and see.

Does treading water at the bottom of the south for the next 3-7 years sound fun? 

[onmyown]

2 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Does treading water at the bottom of the south for the next 3-7 years sound fun? 

That’s just one side of the risk. I’m sick of safe choices. It’s all the Panthers have ever done. We’re already at the bottom.

[Tbe]

3 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

Does treading water at the bottom of the south for the next 3-7 years sound fun? 

There is no simple and safe way to get to the top of the nfl. If there was a head coach and staff that was universally viewed as top tier they would be off the market already. It doesn’t happen that way. 
 

We have to be willing to take smart risks and try things other teams aren’t. That’s the only way we can get ahead. 

Can it fail. Yep. But the alternative is Ron and Norv forever.

[Harbingers]

6 minutes ago, onmyown said:

That’s just one side of the risk. I’m sick of safe choices. It’s all the Panthers have ever done. We’re already at the bottom.

This isn’t the bottom yet. 

[Tbe]

8 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

This isn’t the bottom yet. 

2015 wouldn’t happen without a 2010.

[Wolfcop]

I don't think any coach we could have hired would have made this group 100% happy. The only thing that can be done is to wait and see. Some college coaches have made it big and some haven't. No way to tell which way it will go. 

[Harbingers]

2 minutes ago, Tbe said:

2015 wouldn’t happen without a 2010.

So then why did we bring back Hurney?

2017-2020 wouldn’t happen without Hurney.

[Snake]

2 hours ago, ellis said:

There’s another concept out there: acquire talent, work that talent into your scheme while also adapting your scheme around that talent. Talent development is still an important deal in the NFL. I think the team is working hard to sell this angle to help justify a reset. I’m not certain how translatable Rhule’s “program building” rep is at the pro level. I’m not ruling it out. I’m just a healthy skeptic.

I suppose if your going to bring in a college coach it's the way to do it. He's not bringing in a scheme or a gimic. Just boring old football coached well. How that translates is beyond me. It takes a lot to be consistently successful in the NFL. It takes even more to rebuild a team and be consistently successful. 

[Tbe]

6 minutes ago, Harbingers said:

So then why did we bring back Hurney?

2017-2020 wouldn’t happen without Hurney.

Dude I don’t know. How can anyone answer that?

To me it sounds like you want to convince everyone that everything is going to be terrible and we’ll win one game a year for the next ten years. 
 

If that’s what you really think, then why are you hanging around? Go find a team you have more hope in.

[sml1950]

So Rhule goes to schools where he is recruiting 1,2, and maybe 3 star athletes who are rated that way because they are slower and smaller than the 3-5 stars that he is playing against.  He almost gets to the National Championship and he is dissed because the players can’t make the jump to the pros.  He’s either a great coach of ragtag players against lousy coaches with better players or he did a pretty damn good job of improving the level that came into the school.  NFL drafting is based more on height, weights, and speed by position than just being a good football player.  This is EXACTLY why Rhule said in his initial interview that he can’t wait to see how he does on an equal playing field.