BREAKING NEWS: David Tepper speaks on Cam Newton status with Panthers

[Cary Kollins]

tbf Tennessee destroyed Baltimore and the 2019 MVP in their own house, and also had a 21-0 lead in the AFC championship game.

There are many ways to win in the NFL. Having a world-beater at QB isn’t necessarily a must. 
 

CMC isn’t trade bait. You don’t trade or shop a 23 year old phenom. You just don’t. You build around that player, the same way Rivera and Hurney should have built around Cam when he came into the league.

[4Corners]

1 minute ago, Cary Kollins said:

tbf Tennessee destroyed Baltimore and the 2019 MVP in their own house, and also had a 21-0 lead in the AFC championship game.

There are many ways to win in the NFL. Having a world-beater at QB isn’t necessarily a must. 
 

CMC isn’t trade bait. You don’t trade or shop a 23 year old phenom. You just don’t. You build around that player, the same way Rivera and Hurney should have built around Cam when he came into the league.

Anyone here who thinks we need to trade CMC needs to permabanned swiftly. 

[WarHeel]

19 minutes ago, TheRed said:

Harsh truth is looking around the league at the successful teams, running backs are becoming more and more plug and play and requiring less investment. That isn't so much the case with WR.

Great thing CMC doubles as a WR

[TheRed]

2 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

tbf Tennessee destroyed Baltimore and the 2019 MVP in their own house, and also had a 21-0 lead in the AFC championship game.

There are many ways to win in the NFL. Having a world-beater at QB isn’t necessarily a must. 
 

CMC isn’t trade bait. You don’t trade or shop a 23 year old phenom. You just don’t. You build around that player, the same way Rivera and Hurney should have built around Cam when he came into the league.

You can say what you want about the Ravens, but they still have a 23 year old Lamar Jackson. The game begins and ultimately ends behind center. The Titans are facing watching Henry walk for nothing or sinking a boatload of cap space into him. They can try to keep him and Tannehill, but do you really think they don't want to upgrade at quarterback if they can after watching the show Mahomes put on in the fourth quarter of the Super Bowl?

[TheRed]

3 minutes ago, WarHeel said:

Great thing CMC doubles as a WR

Drives up his price too because he can argue we use him as a WR more when it comes time to extend or franchise tag.

Meanwhile, who's our QB again?

[TheRed]

It sure seems like there are some Panthers fans here who would rather mortgage the future on fan favorites than improve the overall team for the better of the franchise.

I'm looking hard at some folks right now that have had many things to say about emotional attachments.

[raz]

9 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

Anyone here who thinks we need to trade CMC needs to permabanned swiftly. 

awwww, you wanna ban me. well i love you even though you've been in a crap mood lately.    he's just here at the wrong time.   he's not gonna do us any good.  its nothing against him, he's amazing, but serves no purpose on our team besides entertainment at this point, unless he is just amazing for the locker room.     paying him a large contract doesn't make sense.  we can get rb after rb on rookie deals.   

[4Corners]

3 minutes ago, raz said:

awwww, you wanna ban me. well i love you even though you've been in a crap mood lately.    he's just here at the wrong time.   he's not gonna do us any good.  its nothing against him, he's amazing, but serves no purpose on our team besides entertainment at this point, unless he is just amazing for the locker room.     paying him a large contract doesn't make sense.  we can get rb after rb on rookie deals.   

I don’t want to ban anyone. It was a figure of speech. Trading CMC would be one of the worst things this franchise could do. Words cannot describe how asinine it would be to trade him. 

[raz]

2 minutes ago, 4Corners said:

I don’t want to ban anyone. It was a figure of speech. Trading CMC would be one of the worst things this franchise could do. Words cannot describe how asinine it would be to trade him. 

i'm all for it if they package him and cam to get tua or burrow.   all the new guys can grow together under rhules guidance.   i mean we are swinging for the fences already.  if cam is healthy and we have a couple good drafts and it all works out that way i'm great with that too.

[MHS831]

Here is the one thing I do not understand and have not seen it argued much (that does not mean it has not been beaten to death), and it could be the reason Tepper wants Cam out.  Frankly, without knowing all of the details, it sure seems that the fans and ownership have a legitmate concern.--

Cam waited three months after injuring his foot before having surgery that takes 6 months to heal.  Next month, three months out of his foot surgery, he will be asked to perform to determine his fate.  In 6 months, the normal healing process, it will be June.  He will have been limited in OTAs--again. 

Before, when Cam injured his partially torn rotator cuff (2016 season), he waited until MARCH to have the surgery--missing all of camp.

The following year, he had surgery on the same shoulder in late January, 2018--when it because obvious that Cam could not throw as soon as October 2017--but RR kept playing him.

So are these delays on Cam, the organization, the head coach?  The team needs their healthy QB on the field during OTAs, camp,  and preseason.  If not, it throws off the timing and chemistry for all players. 

So why the delays?  If they Cam's decision, could that contribute to Tepper's frustration?  Not a rhetorical question---I am not sure if this has been addressed or if there is a good explanation---not seeking an opinion here, because you nor I know the answer--unless it has been addressed by the organization or cam.

[MHS831]

On 2/12/2020 at 11:22 AM, joeyxfresco said:

My just stating what I want to happen. Get out of your emotions. 

If you are stating what you want to happen, then I am not the one in my emotions.  You could be right--but the chance of a different outcome is greater.  Did not mean for it to be taken personally.

[Cary Kollins]

CMC for three top-15 first round picks and I’m in.

Edit: must include a second and third rounder as well

[mrcompletely11]

29 minutes ago, Cary Kollins said:

CMC for three top-15 first round picks and I’m in.

Edit: must include a second and third rounder as well

I would call the Raiders and offer Cam and Cmac for their 2 firsts just to see what they may say.   Thats a fair deal all the way around.

[LinvilleGorge]

I definitely agree with this idea that we need more good football players, but when your idea to acquire more good football players involves trading our best football player (who is only 23 years old) for draft pick that may be able to be turned into good football players, well that has me like...