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On 2/8/2020 at 1:38 PM, Mr. Scot said:

He's been the owner through two seasons

I guess the knee jerk reactions by people that don't know what they are talking about (in regards to owning/running a franchise) about a guy who is 100x more informed than them..just makes the time seem to go by faster.

I mean, what are we even basing it on at this point?  That he hasn't fired Hurney and a few minor hires?

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39 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I guess the knee jerk reactions by people that don't know what they are talking about (in regards to owning/running a franchise) about a guy who is 100x more informed than them..just makes the time seem to go by faster.

I mean, what are we even basing it on at this point?  That he hasn't fired Hurney and a few minor hires?

Pretty sure Jim Haslam, Dan Snyder and Stephen Ross (among others) can all be said to know a hundred times more about owning a football team than anybody here as well.

How's that workin' out?

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16 hours ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

I guess the knee jerk reactions by people that don't know what they are talking about (in regards to owning/running a franchise) about a guy who is 100x more informed than them..just makes the time seem to go by faster.

I mean, what are we even basing it on at this point?  That he hasn't fired Hurney and a few minor hires?

I admit there may be plenty I don't know about owning a pro sports franchise, but I don't know anything about cardio thoracic surgery either and I'm still gonna say the guy whose last ten patients died on the table probably isn't very good at it. I am not saying yeah or nay on Tepper as owner yet, but there have been both good and bad indications so far. Retaining Hurney if he is still our gm come next fall I would consider extremely dubious as an owner move.

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15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pretty sure Jim Haslam, Dan Snyder and Stephen Ross (among others) can all be said to know a hundred times more about owning a football team than anybody here as well.

How's that workin' out?

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Just now, 1of10Charnatives said:

I admit there may be plenty I don't know about owning a pro sports franchise, but I don't know anything about cardio thoracic surgery either and I'm still gonna say the guy whose last ten patients died on the table probably isn't very good at it

Fortunately that isn't the case with Hurney.  More people are complaining about what Hurney did his first time around (which is fair) compared to this time around.  They are using the mentality of "its impossible to improve at your job, ever".  And "the win/loss record is all his fault, ignore we fired a coach because he couldn't win due to us claiming he isn't that good".

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15 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

Pretty sure Jim Haslam, Dan Snyder and Stephen Ross (among others) can all be said to know a hundred times more about owning a football team than anybody here as well.

How's that workin' out?

And those guys have a much much longer body of work to deal with.  Tepper, for very obvious reasons, didn't really do anything his first season.  It would have been stupid to come in July or August right before it started and clean house.  So he has really only had 1 year to really start making changes.  And he has.

Unfortunately they apparently haven't met the football IQ of a person that posts on a forum a lot.

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7 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Fortunately that isn't the case with Hurney.  More people are complaining about what Hurney did his first time around (which is fair) compared to this time around.  They are using the mentality of "its impossible to improve at your job, ever".  And "the win/loss record is all his fault, ignore we fired a coach because he couldn't win due to us claiming he isn't that good".

The fact that Hue Jackson has such a terrible record as a head coach shouldn't be held against him. People who don't want to hire him as a head coach are just using the mentality that it's impossible to improve at your job.

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Just now, Mr. Scot said:

The fact that Hue Jackson has such a terrible record as a head coach shouldn't be held against him. People who don't want to hire him as a head coach are just using the mentality that it's impossible to improve at your job

Hue Jackson has had multiple stints at head coaching.

He got worse his second stint.

 

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8 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Fortunately that isn't the case with Hurney.  More people are complaining about what Hurney did his first time around (which is fair) compared to this time around.  They are using the mentality of "its impossible to improve at your job, ever".  And "the win/loss record is all his fault, ignore we fired a coach because he couldn't win due to us claiming he isn't that good".

Restructuring KK on his second go around was a big red flag that makes Hurney improving greatly at his job a dubious notion.  To be fair, I'd even be willing to go so far as to lend some credence to the notion that Hurney's poor showing in the draft beyond round one is due in part to poor fan perception of just how iffy any pick beyond the first round is combined with JR's cheapness leaving him an understaffed scouting department compared to his competitors, so it's possible that Tepper opening the checkbook will lead to improvement in this area. So I'm not just hating on Hurney for the sake of hating on him, but I do question keeping him around when his overall career track record is just not very good and recent attempts to fill the Assistant GM job have basically been thwarted by his presence. 

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4 minutes ago, Tepper's Chest Hair said:

Hue Jackson has had multiple stints at head coaching.

He got worse his second stint.

He's had the same number of head coaching jobs as Marty Hurney has had GM jobs.

Mind you, he actually found a different team that was willing to hire him.

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1 minute ago, 1of10Charnatives said:

Restructuring KK on his second go around was a big red flag that makes Hurney improving greatly at his job a dubious notion.  To be fair, I'd even be willing to go so far as to lend some credence to the notion that Hurney's poor showing in the draft beyond round one is due in part to poor fan perception of just how iffy any pick beyond the first round is combined with JR's cheapness leaving him an understaffed scouting department compared to his competitors, so it's possible that Tepper opening the checkbook will lead to improvement in this area. So I'm not just hating on Hurney for the sake of hating on him, but I do question keeping him around when his overall career track record is just not very good and recent attempts to fill the Assistant GM job have basically been thwarted by his presence

For the record, I am completely fine if we move on from Hurney.  And restructuring the contracts he did..well.  It sucks now, but at the time I understand why.  Since Hurney returned we've had like 5-6 starting positions that needed to be filled every off season with about 20--25m in cap space to do it with.It was a no-win situation.  You either give up on the season, or kick some money down the road and hope you can spread it around a bit.

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1 minute ago, Mr. Scot said:

He's had the same number of head coaching jobs as Marty Hurney has had GM jobs.

Mind you, he actually found a different team that was willing to hire him.

Right.  Which makes it an improper comparison.  You are comparing Hue Jackson being hired for a 3rd job the same as evaluating Hurney's second.

I am saying that almost all of the performance flack Hurney gets comes from his first stint.

You are bringing up Hue Jackson, where his *second* stint is actually what hurt him.  He was a promising OC that went 8-8 his first year as a head coach in Oakland.  Before failing miserably his second chance.  So he got worse.

That is the opposite of Hurney.  Hurney isn't perfect, but his decisions have been better this time around.

So.  The comparison doesn't really make sense.

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