Another year, another draft thread.

[45catfan]

As long as Simmons and at least one OL gets selected before us, I will be fine with whomever we get.  In all the simulations I have ran, the only thing that makes me anxious is when Simmons falls and no OL gets selected in the top 6 picks.  I really doubt Simmons falls, but could Wirfs, Wills and Thomas all fall to #7?  It's a very real possibility and we will certainly take one of them, but I would rather take one of the other guys that got selected in front of us if given the chance.

[Jared Patterson]

So do we really move up each round like Tankathon says in the draft order each round? Like 6 pick in the third, 5th in the fourth?

[TheSpecialJuan]

16 hours ago, Verge said:

I've never said what team and will not.

quit lying, sir

[Raskle]

I think this is my favorite mock I've had up until now, covers all the basics, some late round guys to develop, and some possible day one starters all the way into the fifth round. Most likely Delpit won't really last that long, but anything is possible, and this is still pre-combine, so yeah, maybe?

[Captain Morgan]

28 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

So do we really move up each round like Tankathon says in the draft order each round? Like 6 pick in the third, 5th in the fourth?

we tied with the Dolphins and the Chargers as far as worst record, but we lost the tie breaker to both, so each round rotates that way.  We got last among the 3 in the first at 7, in the second we move up to the sixth pick and up to the fifth pick in the 3rd.  Then the rotation begins again, picking 7th in the 4th, etc.

[MHS831]

The bad part of trading with the Chargers:
They pick right before us.  If we are NOT drafting a QB, they might draft a player we covet.  Secondly, the pick(s) they surrender for Cam could be used to move into the #4 spot to grab the young QB they want.

  The team nobody is talking about is INDY.  Here is why they make more sense:  For them to move up to get a legit QB in 2020, they have to move up 10 places or so.  That would cost the Colts a second and a third.  If they trade for Cam (third rounder), they can sit at 14--if Love falls, they can draft him. If he does not, they can draft a need (Left Tackle) and then grab a QB to develop in round 2 (Fromm, Eason, Hurts, maybe?).  The cost for having Cam, a LT, and a young QB?  The same as moving up in the draft for Herbert or Tua.

Trading for Cam makes sense for the Colts.

[Jared Patterson]

Panthers need to call the Colts and ask them for pick 13 for Cam. They are a win now team who desperately needs a QB. Haven't even thought of them, but makes a lot of sense. I would love to get Derrick Brown and Becton or Thomas.

[Jared Patterson]

Verge, could we get a 1 for Cam?

[45catfan]

53 minutes ago, Jared Patterson said:

Panthers need to call the Colts and ask them for pick 13 for Cam. They are a win now team who desperately needs a QB. Haven't even thought of them, but makes a lot of sense. I would love to get Derrick Brown and Becton or Thomas.

I've done a mock trading with the Colts, not for Cam, but for Herbert.  They have two 2nd round pick and we get the lesser of the two along with some other small tweaks.  Basically we would get another 2nd rounder.

[45catfan]

On 2/15/2020 at 5:30 PM, beo said:

i know nothing about dugger. also, im personally not a fan of raekwon davis. he really strieks me as the guy some team will reach on because of his potential, but then wont ever live up to it. he recorded 0.5 of a sack this year compared to 8 his freshman year, has been declining ever since. i am a fan of shaq quarterman in the 6th though. here's my current mock for reference:

 (i also really like savon ahmed as a UDFA)

I'm only for taking an OT if both QBs, Okudah, Brown and Young are all gone.  Even then, I'm looking at trading down.  None of the OTs are elite, namely on the left side, and you have four all grouped together according to a lot of Big Boards.  I'm not sure you take a RT at #7...it seems a bit steep.

[MHS831]

1 hour ago, Jared Patterson said:

Panthers need to call the Colts and ask them for pick 13 for Cam. They are a win now team who desperately needs a QB. Haven't even thought of them, but makes a lot of sense. I would love to get Derrick Brown and Becton or Thomas.

With Cam's health up in the air, Cam would have to pass the physical--but a second rounder is the very best we could get----my opinion.  A 2020 third is the market--especially if we are doing the calling.

[45catfan]

Another pretty good one from the simulator (oddly both Brown and Okudah were available):

7: R1P7

 DL DERRICK BROWN

AUBURN

38: R2P6

 OT PRINCE TEGA WANOGHO

AUBURN

69: R3P5

 CB JAYLON JOHNSON

UTAH

110: R4P7

 TE ADAM TRAUTMAN

DAYTON

152: R5P6

 S JEREMY CHINN

S. ILLINOIS

184: R6P5

 EDGE ALEX HIGHSMITH

CHARLOTTE

221: R7P7

 LB SHAQUILLE QUARTERMAN

MIAMI (FLA.)

[Real1zOnly]

I swear if I see another post with us getting a 1st round pick for Cam Newton im going to lose it. Wake up to reality people nobody is trading a 1st round pick for QB who hasn't been healthy in 2 years and coming off another major surgery.

Cam can't even pass a physical right now, yet people think a team is dumb enough to trade a 1st rounder for him.smh

 

[Verge]

11 hours ago, 45catfan said:

As long as Simmons and at least one OL gets selected before us, I will be fine with whomever we get.  In all the simulations I have ran, the only thing that makes me anxious is when Simmons falls and no OL gets selected in the top 6 picks.  I really doubt Simmons falls, but could Wirfs, Wills and Thomas all fall to #7?  It's a very real possibility and we will certainly take one of them, but I would rather take one of the other guys that got selected in front of us if given the chance.

I would just about guarantee that one tackle will go off the board before us. 

 

8 hours ago, MHS831 said:

The bad part of trading with the Chargers:
They pick right before us.  If we are NOT drafting a QB, they might draft a player we covet.  Secondly, the pick(s) they surrender for Cam could be used to move into the #4 spot to grab the young QB they want.

  The team nobody is talking about is INDY.  Here is why they make more sense:  For them to move up to get a legit QB in 2020, they have to move up 10 places or so.  That would cost the Colts a second and a third.  If they trade for Cam (third rounder), they can sit at 14--if Love falls, they can draft him. If he does not, they can draft a need (Left Tackle) and then grab a QB to develop in round 2 (Fromm, Eason, Hurts, maybe?).  The cost for having Cam, a LT, and a young QB?  The same as moving up in the draft for Herbert or Tua.

Trading for Cam makes sense for the Colts.

Regardless of his past injury issues, if he clears a physical, we are going to get a lot more than a third for him.