Another year, another draft thread.

[Black&BlueBubba]

15 hours ago, WOW!! said:

From this list  I don't see Kinlaw, Simmons or Okudah.. None of the later round DT..  Alot of CB no Safeties (Which might means Hurney doing that dumbass CB to safety thing again).. 

I wish they had spoken to more Interior Olinemen.. Less edge rushers since you fuging signed 2 of them..

We talked to Kinlaw

Not sure about Okudah. 

[*FreeFua*]

Everyone keeps mentioning Okudah and Henderson but Diggs doesn’t get enough love imo. He’s going to be a stud. 
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2886384-anonymous-gm-bets-40-percent-of-teams-rank-cj-henderson-ahead-of-jeff-okudah.amp.html

 

 

[FuFuLamePoo]

43 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Everyone keeps mentioning Okudah and Henderson but Diggs doesn’t get enough love imo. He’s going to be a stud. 
 

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/syndication.bleacherreport.com/amp/2886384-anonymous-gm-bets-40-percent-of-teams-rank-cj-henderson-ahead-of-jeff-okudah.amp.html

 

 

Fulton is CB2. Watch his film against Alabama (Jeudy, Ruggs)

[*FreeFua*]

15 minutes ago, FuFuLamePoo said:

Fulton is CB2. Watch his film against Alabama (Jeudy, Ruggs)

Wil do

They have coverage cut ups out for him as well. 

[Madwolf]

It amazes me that Herbert is picked so high. You look at this film and this is basically what pops out:

• His final year he has plenty of bad games, but the Colorado game is the only game where you see what you want out of an NFL QB with any consistency.
• He often has trouble making simple reads, trouble with timing, and ball placement down field.
• His biggest strength is his arm, compared to other QBs in this year's draft, but his coaches often didn't trust him to throw it down field.
• He threw almost 25% of his passes on screen plays, and the closest NFL QB through around 17% this past season.

If we were talking about a guy who was a year 2 starter in college, and was coming into the league as a project player to take on day 2 or 3, I might understand the hype given his frame and throwing strength, but for the life of me I can't figure out why a guy who started for almost his entire college career is seen as a Top10, or frankly even a Day 1 pick, with these kinds of concerns.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

21 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

It amazes me that Herbert is picked so high. You look at this film and this is basically what pops out:

• His final year he has plenty of bad games, but the Colorado game is the only game where you see what you want out of an NFL QB with any consistency.
• He often has trouble making simple reads, trouble with timing, and ball placement down field.
• His biggest strength is his arm, compared to other QBs in this year's draft, but his coaches often didn't trust him to throw it down field.
• He threw almost 25% of his passes on screen plays, and the closest NFL QB through around 17% this past season.

If we were talking about a guy who was a year 2 starter in college, and was coming into the league as a project player to take on day 2 or 3, I might understand the hype given his frame and throwing strength, but for the life of me I can't figure out why a guy who started for almost his entire college career is seen as a Top10, or frankly even a Day 1 pick, with these kinds of concerns.

 

It's worth noting that Colorado was #95 in overall defense. #123 in overall pass defense.  #121 in average completion percentage allowed. That's out of 130. They were an absolute bottom of the barrel college pass defense.

[CarolinaNCSU]

If I'm taking a QB, it's rolling the dice on greatness with Tua instead of locking in Kirk Cousins worse but stronger armed brother in Herbert. Do not see the appeal of that guy AT ALL. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

53 minutes ago, Madwolf said:

It amazes me that Herbert is picked so high. You look at this film and this is basically what pops out:

• His final year he has plenty of bad games, but the Colorado game is the only game where you see what you want out of an NFL QB with any consistency.
• He often has trouble making simple reads, trouble with timing, and ball placement down field.
• His biggest strength is his arm, compared to other QBs in this year's draft, but his coaches often didn't trust him to throw it down field.
• He threw almost 25% of his passes on screen plays, and the closest NFL QB through around 17% this past season.

If we were talking about a guy who was a year 2 starter in college, and was coming into the league as a project player to take on day 2 or 3, I might understand the hype given his frame and throwing strength, but for the life of me I can't figure out why a guy who started for almost his entire college career is seen as a Top10, or frankly even a Day 1 pick, with these kinds of concerns.

 

Herbert is Brady Quinn 2.0 

[FuFuLamePoo]

59 minutes ago, *FreeFua* said:

Wil do

They have coverage cut ups out for him as well. 

His tackling needs some work, but he’s about my ideal CB. Just presses tf out of players. Allowed like a 40% completion rate when targeted last year! And lined up against receivers like Jeudy, Ruggs, Lamb and Higgins!

[TheSpecialJuan]

Dane Brugler
@dpbrugler
If AJ Terrell is available. Several teams in the top-16 picks have their eyes on the Clemson CB.

Terrell is going to go higher than most think.

[Verge]

1 hour ago, Madwolf said:

It amazes me that Herbert is picked so high. You look at this film and this is basically what pops out:

• His final year he has plenty of bad games, but the Colorado game is the only game where you see what you want out of an NFL QB with any consistency.
• He often has trouble making simple reads, trouble with timing, and ball placement down field.
• His biggest strength is his arm, compared to other QBs in this year's draft, but his coaches often didn't trust him to throw it down field.
• He threw almost 25% of his passes on screen plays, and the closest NFL QB through around 17% this past season.

If we were talking about a guy who was a year 2 starter in college, and was coming into the league as a project player to take on day 2 or 3, I might understand the hype given his frame and throwing strength, but for the life of me I can't figure out why a guy who started for almost his entire college career is seen as a Top10, or frankly even a Day 1 pick, with these kinds of concerns.

 

He had awesome games against Colorado, Washington, Stanford, and Wisconsin (As far as using all the tools in his box). There is a sort of consensus that he was not coached up the way he should be, and will be able to thrive in a more open offense in the NFL. That Oregon offense was straight up not built for him. Not to say he doesn't have some pretty glaring flaws in games, where he just is impatient or seems to forget what play was called. He is not a starter in 2020 probably.

[Verge]

7 minutes ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Dane Brugler
@dpbrugler
If AJ Terrell is available. Several teams in the top-16 picks have their eyes on the Clemson CB.

Terrell is going to go higher than most think.

I don't know about top 16, but I think he does probably end up in the first. 

[MHS831]

18 hours ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

Exactly. We only have 63 players under contract right now so loading up on UDFA seems to be the plan this year. With out 8 selections we would still have 19 roster spots to fill after the draft. 

And that is how Rhule has been able to compete--he was not given five starts recruits--he had to find those nobody wanted and develop them.  That is called coaching, something Rivera (and Fox to a degree) did not seem to do well.  If the ONLY way to win is to develop players instead of recruiting/drafting them, it sure changes the way you look at this...This is refreshing to see.

[MHS831]

12 minutes ago, Verge said:

He had awesome games against Colorado, Washington, Stanford, and Wisconsin (As far as using all the tools in his box). There is a sort of consensus that he was not coached up the way he should be, and will be able to thrive in a more open offense in the NFL. That Oregon offense was straight up not built for him. Not to say he doesn't have some pretty glaring flaws in games, where he just is impatient or seems to forget what play was called. He is not a starter in 2020 probably.

So if the Miami buzz is true, I think Fitzpatrick has a year left---good transition for Herbert.