Another year, another draft thread.

[TheSpecialJuan]

13 hours ago, Verge said:

You guys know me by now, if you do not I have a friend who is a scout in the NFL, and I also do my own scouting work on the side (I have a twitter and all that junk hoping to turn it into a career at some point). It's fine if you believe me, it's fine if you don't, I do this thread every year and some of you guys seem to enjoy it, so here are some tidbits for the draft his year. 

-This is an elite tackle class, one of the best in years, there will be 6-7 tackles taken in the first round, and it would not shock me if 5 of them go in the top 15. 

-This QB class is comparable to the Baker Mayfield class, Burrow, Tua, and Herbert are all legit QBs, with Jordan Love, Jacob Eason, Jalen Hurts, and James Morgan bringing intrigue on the back end of the first round or somewhere in the 2nd. (Jordan Love will probably go somewhere in the top 20) 

-The WR class is also elite, but is also deeper than every other class here, which may lead to WRs dropping later than expected because teams feel like you can go get an elite lineman and swing back into the 2nd/3rd and still get WR help. I would guess five WRS go in the first round Jeudy, Lamb, Shenault, Jefferson and Ruggs, but that could change depending on how the board falls. I have nine WRs with a first round grade. 

-Javon Kinlaw is a guy who could push Derick Brown for the top interior defensive lineman, think Ed Oliver v Quinnen Williams of the last year, it's a lot closer than people realize. 

-Don't listen to the attempts by leakers to push down Yetur Gross-Matos, this dude is crazy good and will blow up the combine. Not a lot of guys have the wiggle, bend, size, burst, and athleticism he does at the end position. 

-D'Andre Swift is another guy people may sleep on, he is a better prospect than Josh Jacobs was at the time, his acceleration is next level and will probably go higher than people expect. 

Some names that should go higher than they are being mocked within the media: 
Jordan Elliot, DT, MIZZ
Josh Jones, OT, HOU 
Austin Jackson, OT, USC 
Ross Blacklock, DT, TCU 
Patrick Queen, LB, LSU 
Marlon Davidson, DE/DT, AUB 
Noah Igbinoghene, CB, AUB 
Logan Stenberg, G, KEN
Joshua Kelley, RB, UCLA 
Anfernee Jennings, EDGE, ALA 
Denzel Mims, WR, BAY 


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you're full of cat crap 

[Verge]

5 hours ago, The Lobo said:

What does your friend think of the OT from Louisville? 

He has him as his top OT, big dudes don't move like that usually. My top OT is still Andrew Thomas.

[GoPanthers123]

How big is the talent drop off after 3 Rd round?  

[Verge]

1 minute ago, TheSpecialJuan said:

you're full of cat crap 

Probably

[MMA]

I’m not a fan of this draft at all. Good but not great. Similar to the 2015 draft. 

[Verge]

5 hours ago, ncfan said:

Curious to what he thinks of Wirfs (one of my favorite OTs)

 

His guy seemed pretty high and keyed on Daniel Jones.  Which after the draft it seemed the Giants were about on the same level as his guy (cough cough, dont know if his guy is with the Giants)

 

I saw the other day the Giants (Scouts and Gettleman) are super high on Wirfs and have read "sources" say the Giants may even consider him at 4

 

Wirfs is good, it's just a matter of are you okay skipping out on guys like Thomas, Bechton, Jackson, and Willis who can all play LT, where as Wirfs is either a RT or a guard.

We were both very high on Daniel Jones, dude is a stud.

[Jared Patterson]

7 minutes ago, Verge said:

Wirfs is good, it's just a matter of are you okay skipping out on guys like Thomas, Bechton, Jackson, and Willis who can all play LT, where as Wirfs is either a RT or a guard.

We were both very high on Daniel Jones, dude is a stud.

I agree with you Verge this is one of the best tackle classes Ive ever seen; however, completely disagree on Daniel Jones. I think he is arguably the worst starting QB in the league. Anyway, curious for your prospective on the Safety class. How would you rank Delpit, McKinney, Davis??

[The Lobo]

10 minutes ago, Verge said:

He has him as his top OT, big dudes don't move like that usually. My top OT is still Andrew Thomas.

I agree with him, I think he’s the best OT this year and if we drafted him, I wouldn’t be mad at all. 

[Verge]

Just now, Jared Patterson said:

I agree with you Verge this is one of the best tackle classes Ive ever seen; however, completely disagree on Daniel Jones I think he is arguably the worst QB in the league. Anyway, curious for your prospective on the Safety class. How would you rank Delpit, McKinney, Davis??

You and I must have watched different games. 

1. Delpit 
2. McKinney 
3. Winfield 

[Jared Patterson]

3 minutes ago, Verge said:

You and I must have watched different games. 

1. Delpit 
2. McKinney 
3. Winfield 

Im just not a fan of Jones never was when he came out of Duke, but Im surprised you aren't a fan of Ashtyn Davis. I think he slips into the first round after the combine. Heard he is gonna run a low 4.3 and is the "smartest guy in the room" according to Tony Pauline. Supposedly will blow away in interviews. I don't love his tape, but I see him fitting with random teams like the Patriots

[Verge]

1 minute ago, Jared Patterson said:

Im just not a fan of Jones never was when he came out of Duke, but Im surprised you aren't a fan of Ashtyn Davis. I think he slips into the first round after the combine. Heard he is gonna run a low 4.3 and is the "smartest guy in the room" according to Tony Pauline.

I like Davis, the problem is with how he fits, he is not a good tackle, and he will get eaten up by blocks. If you are looking for a pure roaming FS he fits, but that's not really a position you want whiffing tackles. 

[TheSpecialJuan]

5 hours ago, The Lobo said:

What does your friend think of the OT from Louisville? 

he's cute

[Jared Patterson]

2 minutes ago, Verge said:

I like Davis, the problem is with how he fits, he is not a good tackle, and he will get eaten up by blocks. If you are looking for a pure roaming FS he fits, but that's not really a position you want whiffing tackles. 

Agree completely. I watch tape as well and pay for all that crap too. Its just a hobby of mine, the draft is probably my favorite sporting event. Anyway, that is exactly why I said a random team like the Patriots would take him. He could be a perfect fit for certain teams. Heck I would love him in the second for the Panthers. He would be an upgrade from Boston (who is similar, but slower)

[Jared Patterson]

So Verge, Im assuming you don't think Delpit or McKinney will make it to us in the second like Matt Miller keeps saying? (He thinks Delpit actually goes past us in the second.) Curious what your guy thinks about him.