Another year, another draft thread.

[LinvilleGorge]

It's a concern that is compounded for me when that guy plays in the same unit as a dominant player projected as a top 10 pick. Is he just a lunch pail try hard guy who is maximizing the opportunity to shine with his teammate drawing all the attention from the opponents?

[Mr. Scot]

1 hour ago, tiger7_88 said:

Wouldn't they have to have an agreement with the NFLPA to do that?

Don't know. I'd guess they're not technically members of the NFLPA until they're drafted...or signed...or, ya know what? I don't know.

[Toomers]

2 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

On top of the fact that he has the size that give you the flexibility to slide him inside in particular defensive sets.

Now I'm not saying he's the best player in the draft or anything, but if he ends up going in the bottom of the first, it will be because of his consistent productivity in the SEC as well as his flexibility and strength.  It certainly won't be because of any sort of flashy athleticism.

  His days on the edge of any DEF are probably over. He bulked up after the season(300+) knowing he couldn’t survive at DE in a 4-3. He is probably best suited as a 5-tech in a 3-4. 

[LinvilleGorge]

1 minute ago, Toomers said:

  His days on the edge of any DEF are probably over. He bulked up after the season(300+) knowing he couldn’t survive at DE in a 4-3. He is probably best suited as a 5-tech in a 3-4. 

I could see him playing DE in a 3-4. But the reality of the modern NFL is that 3-4 DEs are playing as a three tech the vast majority of the time because regardless of 4-3 vs. 3-4, nickel is the de facto base defense in today's NFL.

[Toomers]

1 minute ago, LinvilleGorge said:

I could see him playing DE in a 3-4. But the reality of the modern NFL is that 3-4 DEs are playing as a three tech the vast majority of the time because regardless of 4-3 vs. 3-4, nickel is the de facto base defense in today's NFL.

What I’m saying is he hasn’t done much of either. So it’s tough to judge his play at 4-3 DE compared to any technique that involves moving inside. Which at 300+, is happening. And he knows it. 
 

  Nickel doesn’t change your DL. Its either 3 or 4 man. It either O/1 and 3/5 tech. 

[GOAT]

Just landed this draft through PFN:

	7.	Derrick Brown DT Auburn
	38.	Patrick Queen OLB LSU
	69.	Jeremy Chinn S Southern Illinois
	113.	Amik Robertson CB Louisiana Tech
	148.	Thaddeus Moss TE LSU
	152.	Shaquille Quarterman ILB Miami
	184.	LaDarius Hamilton DE North Texas
	221.	Calvin Throckmorton C Oregon

[45catfan]

35 minutes ago, LinvilleGorge said:

It's a concern that is compounded for me when that guy plays in the same unit as a dominant player projected as a top 10 pick. Is he just a lunch pail try hard guy who is maximizing the opportunity to shine with his teammate drawing all the attention from the opponents?

Daeshon Hall scenario right there in a nutshell.  Hall put up decent stats with Miles Garrett on the opposite side drawing all the attention at Texas A&M.  We moved up in the 3rd round to get him.  Come to find out he was a 'try hard' guy that benefited from a stud playing the opposite end and couldn't make a name for himself here.

[MHS831]

11 minutes ago, GOAT said:

Just landed this draft through PFN:

	7.	Derrick Brown DT Auburn
	38.	Patrick Queen OLB LSU
	69.	Jeremy Chinn S Southern Illinois
	113.	Amik Robertson CB Louisiana Tech
	148.	Thaddeus Moss TE LSU
	152.	Shaquille Quarterman ILB Miami
	184.	LaDarius Hamilton DE North Texas
	221.	Calvin Throckmorton C Oregon

I would celebrate this draft with vigor.

 

[LinvilleGorge]

15 minutes ago, 45catfan said:

Daeshon Hall scenario right there in a nutshell.  Hall put up decent stats with Miles Garrett on the opposite side drawing all the attention at Texas A&M.  We moved up in the 3rd round to get him.  Come to find out he was a 'try hard' guy that benefited from a stud playing the opposite end and couldn't make a name for himself here.

I don't even think he qualified as a try hard guy. He was a naturally gifted guy with the measurables to still put up decent numbers despite loafing when he had an elite dominant player opposite him drawing all the attention.

[TheSpecialJuan]

22 minutes ago, GOAT said:

Just landed this draft through PFN:

	7.	Derrick Brown DT Auburn
	38.	Patrick Queen OLB LSU
	69.	Jeremy Chinn S Southern Illinois
	113.	Amik Robertson CB Louisiana Tech
	148.	Thaddeus Moss TE LSU
	152.	Shaquille Quarterman ILB Miami
	184.	LaDarius Hamilton DE North Texas
	221.	Calvin Throckmorton C Oregon

damn 

[45catfan]

35 minutes ago, GOAT said:

Just landed this draft through PFN:

	7.	Derrick Brown DT Auburn
	38.	Patrick Queen OLB LSU
	69.	Jeremy Chinn S Southern Illinois
	113.	Amik Robertson CB Louisiana Tech
	148.	Thaddeus Moss TE LSU
	152.	Shaquille Quarterman ILB Miami
	184.	LaDarius Hamilton DE North Texas
	221.	Calvin Throckmorton C Oregon

I hear we may need a new GM...would you be interested?

[LinvilleGorge]

Delpit's stock seems to be in near free fall. He went into this season with many projecting him as a top 10 pick. He's heading into the draft hoping to be a 2nd rounder.

[sml1950]

Benefit of having Brady is his inside knowledge of LSU players, both offense and defense.  Rhule has mentioned several times of his preference for directly knowing players.  Wouldn’t be surprised if Rhule would take or stay away from Delpit based substantially on Brady’s recommendation.

[LinvilleGorge]

Just now, sml1950 said:

Benefit of having Brady is his inside knowledge of LSU players, both offense and defense.  Rhule has mentioned several times of his preference for directly knowing players.  Wouldn’t be surprised if Rhule would take or stay away from Delpit based substantially on Brady’s recommendation.

Yeah, between them they should definitely have really good knowledge of SEC and Big 12 prospects, as well as Clemson.