Draft Overview: Sax Man Wishes, Wax Tan Clippins'

[run-run-pass-punt]

10 hours ago, saX man said:

A maybe mid round target:

 

Anthony Gordon QB Washington

Okay, we see you now (And don't throw the poo yet haha) I think I like you more than Jordan Love.

 

And after reading up on him, I don’t think this is just expecting Minshew 2.0.  They’re different QBs. Gordon looks to have a lightning fast release, great agilility, with decent size at 6’3. Solid arm strength, good active pocket presence knowing when to get the ball out.  Never know when you strike gold and we’d be at a point where you might as well take a stab at a guy. The hype will now begin after a huge Senior Bowl. 

I like this idea much better than any idea of taking a QB in RD1 or, heaven forbid, trading *up*.

And please don't extrapolate what I'm about to say for a direct comparison because it is not, but his feet and calm demeanor in the pocket remind me very much of Brady.

[saX man]

1 hour ago, rayzor said:

I grew up with a couple boys from Laos. Loved going to their house. Their grandmother was always sitting on the floor in the middle of the kitchen  getting something ready to cook. Great meals, great family, lot of fun. They always had a stockpile of fireworks. We'd break the stick off of bottle rockets, light them and throw them at each other or have wars with Roman candles. Actually that was all pretty dumb and I'm surprised we didn't spend more time at the hospital and I'd never let my kids do it, but whatever. Those brothers were a lot of fun, but hilarious when they got to fighting. Epic. Started cussing each other out in Laotian and throwing each other around kicking each other sometimes all over the trailer park we lived in. Didn't need tv back then, I mean there was only about 5 channels anyway, but still life with those guys was entertaining enough.

What were we talking about?

Pha That Luang Temple to meet the mind. Some waterfalls as well. 

[Pantha-kun]

Getting Thomas and Biadasz in the same draft would be insane. I really prefer Oline for pick 7 and not DT or CB. There's so much more value in getting some decent Dline to help us rebuild it in later rounds but finally putting a premium on Oline for the first time since 2008 (Jeff Otah was the  last OT taken by the Panthers in R1. TWELVE YEARS AGO). 

I think Biadasz isn't going to be there in the 3rd, I'm pretty sure hes top 3 ranked interior Oline thus far. He could go in the first imo or 2nd at the very least. 

Its long past time for the team to fix the oline. We've tried going ham on defensive picks for ages and its getting our QBs murdered every year.

[saX man]

17 minutes ago, Pantha-kun said:

Getting Thomas and Biadasz in the same draft would be insane. I really prefer Oline for pick 7 and not DT or CB. There's so much more value in getting some decent Dline to help us rebuild it in later rounds but finally putting a premium on Oline for the first time since 2008 (Jeff Otah was the  last OT taken by the Panthers in R1. TWELVE YEARS AGO). 

I think Biadasz isn't going to be there in the 3rd, I'm pretty sure hes top 3 ranked interior Oline thus far. He could go in the first imo or 2nd at the very least. 

Its long past time for the team to fix the oline. We've tried going ham on defensive picks for ages and its getting our QBs murdered every year.

Looking at big boards and the talent, there’s going to be unexpected fallers. This draft in my view has about 40-45 1st round talent, then there’s about ~30 in the next tier before a decent drop off.  Never know! I think mid round 2 is likely for the center.

[tiger7_88]

I like it.

However, the QB you note above is from Washington State, not Washington.

Jacob Eason, a potential 1st-2nd round pick, is from Washington.

[Happy Panther]

12 hours ago, saX man said:

 

 

What position does she play?

[saX man]

54 minutes ago, tiger7_88 said:

I like it.

However, the QB you note above is from Washington State, not Washington.

Jacob Eason, a potential 1st-2nd round pick, is from Washington.

Why thank you!

[saX man]

1 hour ago, Happy Panther said:

What position does she play?

Tight bends

[saX man]

4 hours ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

I like this idea much better than any idea of taking a QB in RD1 or, heaven forbid, trading *up*.

And please don't extrapolate what I'm about to say for a direct comparison because it is not, but his feet and calm demeanor in the pocket remind me very much of Brady.

I know what you’re trying to say. It’s not a “omg he’s Brady” comparison but I see what you mean with his quick yet calm pocket decisions. Very deliberate field general. Has gone under the radar for a bit.  Nothing spectacular but I don’t see why he’s not talked about if not more than an Eason, Love or Hurts. The QBs in this draft may end up wildly different than they’re perceived to right now. 

[run-run-pass-punt]

58 minutes ago, saX man said:

I know what you’re trying to say. It’s not a “omg he’s Brady” comparison but I see what you mean with his quick yet calm pocket decisions. Very deliberate field general. Has gone under the radar for a bit.  Nothing spectacular but I don’t see why he’s not talked about if not more than an Eason, Love or Hurts. The QBs in this draft may end up wildly different than they’re perceived to right now. 

With the Rhule and especially Joe Brady hires, I'm incredibly curious about the direction we go at the QB position. Whether we keep Cam or not, I'm expecting they'll be looking to groom a young guy from scratch, and we might get an interesting view of how they analyze the position in this upcoming draft.

[saX man]

5 hours ago, run-run-pass-punt said:

With the Rhule and especially Joe Brady hires, I'm incredibly curious about the direction we go at the QB position. Whether we keep Cam or not, I'm expecting they'll be looking to groom a young guy from scratch, and we might get an interesting view of how they analyze the position in this upcoming draft.

Yeah, I'll be interested to see how Brady assesses this offense.  I'm all for it if Cam is ready to rock but I'll be super interested in seeing what happens if it's not the case.  I just don't see Brady coming to the NFL in a dream job to start off his career and be like, yeah, let's roll with Kyle Allen or Will Grier. 

WSU has an inflated offensive system but regardless, he threw 48 TDs and for 5600 yards.  I didn't put him in the main draft part because I won't act like I knew of him prior to this year but it's an interesting prospect.  He seems to have most mechanics down minus correctable footwork.  

 

[rayzor]

3 hours ago, saX man said:

Yeah, I'll be interested to see how Brady assesses this offense.  I'm all for it if Cam is ready to rock but I'll be super interested in seeing what happens if it's not the case.  I just don't see Brady coming to the NFL in a dream job to start off his career and be like, yeah, let's roll with Kyle Allen or Will Grier. 

WSU has an inflated offensive system but regardless, he threw 48 TDs and for 5600 yards.  I didn't put him in the main draft part because I won't act like I knew of him prior to this year but it's an interesting prospect.  He seems to have most mechanics down minus correctable footwork.  

 

Yow....really quick and tight throws into small windows. Dude scans the field really well. Me likes. 

[Matt62881]

On 1/27/2020 at 11:17 PM, saX man said:

Dearest Huddle,

 

I’ll keep this moderately saxy. 

-SM

 

DRAFT OVERVIEW: SAXY WISHES

 

 

R1 - Andrew Thomas LT Georgia 6’5 320

R1 Alternates - Jerry Jeudy WR Alabama, Jedrick Wills RT/LT  

At the end of the day, Thomas is the 3 year pro-ready starter at LT coming out of the SEC and has all the tools and measurables you look for with an absolutely mauler-esque mindset.  It’s the offseason and have been exploring the non OL picks, but if I’m being honest, he could likely be both BPA and fix a huge need. Little is a question mark and Daley can go to LG.  Moton cemented at RT. This is a plug and play 10 year starter; all-pro. No flags, no injuries. Thomas it is.      

 

R2 - Justin Madubuike DT Texas A&M 6’3 304

R2 Alternates - Patrick Queen LB LSU, Justin Jefferson WR LSU, Damon Arnette OSU

Keep an eye out for his name.  Disruptor. Being talked up as the second DT after Brown but the hype behind Kinlaw, Raekwan, and Gallimore may push him back. Our spot in Round 2 is where you grab guys that should’ve been taken in the first, as a handful of teams always reach (I see you Raiders…)  I am seeing Justin anywhere from 15-45 in rankings.

 

Good resource: 

https://withthefirstpick.com/2020/01/04/justin-madubuike-welcome-to-2020-nfl-draft-first-round-coversation/

 

 

 

 

Intermission...

Okay, so with value, BPA, and need in mind, we’ve added some muscle to both lines.  Now, it’s time to just go for your high upside talent with legit potential or other early starter types.     

 

 

 

 

R3 - Tyler Biadasz - Center - Wisconsin 6’3 316

 

 

Psych! Line again. Even if this requires a trade up, do it.  He can be inserted right there at Center. I wouldn’t want to over expose a rookie line with a new LT and C so at least we have counterparts/alternates in Little, Daley (LT) and Paradis and Larsen (C).  They are not the best (as we’ve seen) but we shouldn’t add another FA to inflate the investment at Center. Grab a guy here who can start long term.  He's one of the few centers I feel can transition quite easily.

 

And I mean, who doesn’t like a lineman out of the Badger crew?  He was the anchor and lifeblood of CFB’s best line. Do it.        

 

R3 (Trade)  - Tyler Johnson - WR - Minnesota 6’2 205 STUD STUD STUD Stone cold killer, smooth operator

Great hands, buttery routes, smooth runner.  Reminds me a bit of Allen Robinson and Tyler Boyd.  Love his potential and could drop in a LOADED WR class.  Had some clutch catches for a high performing/unexpected powerhouse up there in Minnesota.  One of my faves in the draft. 

 

R4 - Khalid Kareem DE - Notre Dame 6’4 267 

Looking for high upside guys with 3 down DE potential, Kareem is a good option.  Explosive, good reels out there. Has a power-speed combo and solid against the run.  Hope we target a big DE as we have too many fringe 3-4 EDGE talent. Steady progression throughout school and he’s been filling out his frame.  The traditional DE isn’t a mold coming out of school anymore (I.E. Epenesa who’s more 3-4 DE) but Kareem has some nice skills. Don’t look at his measurements and say he’s undersized--he’s got the 4-3 frame.    

 

Remaining Pick (Trade) - Justin Strnad OLB Wake Forest 6’3 235

Showed legit development last year, being a play-making LB, blue chip, high intelligence, intriguing size.  Sealed/closed out a few games for Wake. Has some sideline to sideline relentlessness. Also--has highlight videos as an OLB (not super common) and could be a solid WILL.  

 

There it is. El Fin.

 

But…

 

 

Also...

 

 

The wax tan clippins'

 

A maybe mid round target:

 

Anthony Gordon QB Washington State

Okay, we see you now (And don't throw the poo yet haha) I think I like you more than Jordan Love.

 

And after reading up on him, I don’t think this is just expecting Minshew 2.0.  They’re different QBs. Gordon looks to have a lightning fast release, great agilility, with decent size at 6’3. Solid arm strength, good active pocket presence knowing when to get the ball out.  Never know when you strike gold and we’d be at a point where you might as well take a stab at a guy. The hype will now begin after a huge Senior Bowl.  

 

And a few extra guys I like and note:

 

-Really not that good of a secondary class (said note)

-David Woodward (LB) Utah State

-DJ Wonnum (DE) South Carolina 6’5 265

-Brandon Aiyuk (WR) Arizona State 6’1 206

-Chase Claypool (WR) Notre Dame 6’4 220

-Damon Arnette (CB) Ohio State 6’0 195

-Xavier McKinney (S) Alabama  

 

Ok.

 

And now, a travel video. Today's location: Laos

 

 

 

Like it but I dont think Tyler makes it to the 3rd as i think hes the best plug and play C in the draft atm. I like FA LT, Brown, and Tyler in the 2nd. Any good nickel corners in this draft?

[ImaginaryKev]

First two picks are real good, glad you picked someone different for your second rounder, third rounder might get overdrafted by another team like Billy Price a few years ago

I also figure we'd take a look at that Center from LSU and the Baylor WR Mims since they both fit needs and have coaching ties here.