How long do you give this coaching staff?

[t96]

2 hours ago, Mr. Scot said:

To be clear, I don't necessarily want to set a firm timeframe. I'd like to see how they're progressing.

If it looks like they're improving, I'd probably be more patient. If it looks like they're regressing, maybe not so much.

Do you have a minimum? Would you ever fire a coach after 1 season? What about 2 seasons with 3 or less wins regardless of how they look?

[Soul Rebel]

Unless Rhule and his staff looks COMPLETELY overwhelmed and God awfully basic compared to the competition, I'd say they get 4 years. 

The buzz around the decision, pressers, etc. is for us to be prepared and patient as fans, because this is a "process" and "building blocks" were mentioned often. "Being the best 8-8 team" sticks out from memory as well.

Could be them underpromising and overdelivering, but this is an exciting time in Panther Nation, and I'm in for the long haul if it makes us a Steeler-esque franchise for the next 3 decades. 

[MMA]

7 years

[Khaki Lackey]

54 minutes ago, Ivan The Awesome said:

lol what? I sincerely doubt he gets a winning season with Dwayne Haskins. He doesn't have Cam and Kuechly masking his ineptitude now. The skins do not have the talent to carry them despite of bad coaching. 

I agree, but Ron’s message is new and fresh to them and players do play hard for him. He’ll get a 9-7 season out of them in year 2 or 3. 

[Ivan The Awesome]

2 minutes ago, Khaki Lackey said:

I agree, but Ron’s message is new and fresh to them and players do play hard for him. He’ll get a 9-7 season out of them in year 2 or 3. 

Year 2 or 3 I understand, But this year? Nah man. Unless he somehow changes his coaching style and drafts well and by some miracle the Giants, Cowboys, Eagles are all dysfunctional this year. 

 

I think his ceiling is 7-9. Anything more than 7 wins would be a success with him. 

[Mr. Scot]

29 minutes ago, t96 said:

Do you have a minimum? Would you ever fire a coach after 1 season? What about 2 seasons with 3 or less wins regardless of how they look?

I can't see firing a guy after one season. That's Browns level bad.

Two seasons is conceivable but they'd have to look absolutely horrible with no sign of progress.

Three seasons is where it becomes more plausible.

[Captain Obvious]

7 years

[Davidson Deac II]

October 2020.

[RumHam]

3 hours ago, t96 said:

As antsy as people can get, I’d give them 4 years at a minimum. It really does take time to build up a program from the start like is happening now with Tepper and Rhule changing a ton of things. As long as there is improvement and it isn’t disastrous, 4+ years makes sense. Say we go 1-15, 4-12, 7-9 in the first 3 years, you stick with it and year 4 better be playoffs. I don’t think we’re going to follow the trend of these McVay, Nagy, LaFleur types with a great first season or two and then drop off—and I don’t want that to happen. If it’s truly disastrous like 3 straight seasons with minimal improvement and 5 or less wins each year then yeah you probably move on, but gotta give it time and give them a shot. 3-4 years +

Here's the problem. Tepper wants the quick turn around and he wants to reinvent how its done. If we hit year 3 and there's no playoffs, tepper could care less about going into the hole financially and the new browns will be born. Or, we win the south  this year b/c it's unexpected and we become the new model. That's what tepper hopes happens. Maybe we can beat Arkansas this year.

[t96]

13 minutes ago, Mr. Scot said:

I can't see firing a guy after one season. That's Browns level bad.

Two seasons is conceivable but they'd have to look absolutely horrible with no sign of progress.

Three seasons is where it becomes more plausible.

That’s fair. I’d say 3-4 minimum otherwise it’s like you said Browns level bad, but yeah 2 straight bottom 3 team seasons could be enough. Still kinda pissed Wilks was hired at all just to get fired after 1 year and never have a real chance. He deserved better.

[rayzor]

5 total.

Should get in the playoffs in 2, 3 at the most. If no Superbowl in the first 5 years it ain't going to happen then we should move on.

[Brooklyn 3.0]

One season to learn how to coach in the NFL. If they don't have a winning record the following season, it's open season on insults.

 

Wow at some people willing to wait three seasons.

[1of10Charnatives]

3 minutes ago, RumHam said:

Here's the problem. Tepper wants the quick turn around and he wants to reinvent how its done. If we hit year 3 and there's no playoffs, tepper could care less about going into the hole financially and the new browns will be born. Or, we win the south  this year b/c it's unexpected and we become the new model. That's what tepper hopes happens. Maybe we can beat Arkansas this year.

Since this pretty much goes completely against what Tepper has actually said, I'm wondering how it is that you know Tepper will go contrary to his own public statements on the topic? Are you secret pen pals and he confesses all his deep dark secrets to you? Or are you simply making stuff up about people you don't know personally and asserting things out of thin air with pretty much nothing to back it up? Exactly what do you base your assertion that he will take action 3 years out without playoffs?

I think the problem is actually that you like to just make stuff up and assert it as thought it were fact or based on anything other than your own random unsupported theory.

[Jon Snow]

2 hours ago, panthers55 said:

I think the offense should improve right away. The defense will take more time. But we have a number of good pieces in place already. This isn't like being an expansion team.

I would venture that being in the playoffs in year 3 wirh this menagerie would be a reasonable bet.