Tua at #3 (Trade Up)

[BrianS]

It costs too much to trade up as high as we are in the draft, and pretty much every mock around has him going to the Dolphins at 5.

Stick at 7, and continue to pray that Derrick Brown is still on the board.

[Happy Panther]

There is too much talent in the top 10 to trade up. We will get an elite player at #7. Maybe even Tua...

[Brooklyn 3.0]

I'm happy with anyone that will get this entire board (myself included) to stop arguing non stop about Cam.

So yeah, I guess we should be talking about the QB in 2030. That's when the Camolina Huddle will move on to something else, lol.

[1of10Charnatives]

4 minutes ago, WUnderhill said:

This is overly simplistic and doesn’t hold up under scrutiny.

1. He’s a QB, not a RB. Just like an injury to a throwing shoulder will be much more serious to a QB than a RB.

2. Even with the same injury, there’s other factors to consider. Nerve damage, etc.

3. He will be evaluated by doctors. I’m pretty sure everybody is on board with not touching him with a ten foot pole if we don’t like what we hear from doctors. So your proposing that this freak injury that will likely never happen again should take him off our draft boards even if the doctors say there is no nerve damage, he will make a full recovery, not have limitations, etc. If the recovery prognosis is the same as Bo Jackson’s, literally nobody will want him.

I have a natural tendency towards verbosity, which I sometimes make an effort to curb. You are correct that my post was overly simplistic. My lack of interest in Tua is not based solely on the one injury and it’s nature, but on what his size and total injury history suggest is the likelihood he will enjoy a full and productive career. I just think the risk is too great for a top 10 pick, especially if picking him means we aren’t getting Thomas or Wirfs to help shore up his protection.

[heel31ok]

49 minutes ago, saX man said:

I don’t know if I’d want this as the price could be high but I did have a dream that it happened. So there’s that.

I also figure this can consolidate the Tua specific conversation and see what people think. Many think he’d be hands down #1 overall if he didn’t go down so I wonder how teams will look at him if his medical small check out in March per the reported medical follow up he’s due.

He has a really refined game and I just think could be worth the gamble. In an early reboot, I think it’s the most opportune time to take a boom/bust at the most critical position.

whatsayyou?

Tua will be out of the league in 2-3 yrs.

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[DubE_4MR]

I'd rather take him if he falls to 7. Giving up future picks isn't ideal for a team in rebuild mode.

[Rags]

Tua is a terrific talent.

His lower body injuries scare the poo out of me.

Much rather have Herbert. He reads the field very well and has good mobility. Can get a little wild with his arm and his personality reminds me of Cutler a BUNCH, but I think he's a very good talent. 

[rayzor]

Only if he is 100% guaranteed healthy with no long term or possible chance of recurrence of injury. Don't think that's going to happen.

Don't like the idea of trading one injury question mark for another.

Don't like the idea of mortgaging the future for an earlier pick.

Mix those two and it's a no go for me.

[ENCPantherfan2]

Pass. The hip injury was just the icing on the cake. My real concern is him holding up for a 16 game season. He couldn't stay healthy for a complete season is football, what makes you think he can survive an even harsher environment in the NFL. The league is the SEC on steroids. 

[Anybodyhome]

58 minutes ago, raz said:

and he's not the same alabama qb from the past.

True statement.

Tua has more injuries than the last 4 Alabama QBs combined.

Broken finger, sprained knee, quad injury, tightrope surgery on both ankles and a hip surgery.

[MMA]

1 hour ago, qazsazsaz said:

Tua had 3 first round nfl receivers to throw to and a dominant O-line. I can't trust a guy who's never been challenged to succeed.

That’s a dumb statement. Tua is unlike any other Alabama QBs in the past. He made Alabama above elite once inserted into the offense for Jalen Hurts. All you need to do is go back in watch Tua vs the Georgia Bulldogs in the National Championship game two years ago. You’ll find out why he’s a special talent. 

[MMA]

I found this looking through YouTube. This is why Tua is a special talent. I can’t imagine what Rhule and Brady would do with Tua in the NFL level. 

[MMA]

20 minutes ago, Rags said:

Tua is a terrific talent.

His lower body injuries scare the poo out of me.

Much rather have Herbert. He reads the field very well and has good mobility. Can get a little wild with his arm and his personality reminds me of Cutler a BUNCH, but I think he's a very good talent. 

Herbert is the biggest boom or bust player in the draft. He has everything you want in a QB but has struggled in a weaker conference. 

[The Huddler]

1 hour ago, t96 said:

IF we don’t plan to tank for Trevor (which I’m honestly convinced will happen—look at Rhule’s past first seasons as HC and we have no QB and a relatively poor roster)

then I’d be all for targeting Tua. The hip is definitely a big risk but probably worth it for a guy who when healthy would likely go 1st or 2nd overall. I’d prefer we get a shot at 7 but would consider trading up if we don’t give up any picks from next year’s draft.

100% on board with you