Should Carolina Retire Steve Smith's Jersey

[frash.exe]

7 minutes ago, Bronn said:

I think you're being pessimistic about it because it suits your bias, but there are a lot of stories about the good things he does too. He's also admitted and been very public about depression, etc. since he's left football. How long does someone have to atone for their wrongdoings before they are forgotten?

I'm not naive enough to think that someone of the good he's done isn't for the PR. But I also can't cast stones at someone who was clearly suffering internal conflict at the times of these incidents either.

being depressed isn’t an excuse for making other ppl’s lives miserable and ruining careers. i never saw him apologize to jermaine wiggins. i never saw him own up to things he personally did against other ppl or the things he said. never saw him express regret for assaulting teammates just bc he was a sore sport. there’s plenty of examples of celebrities/public figures trying to atone for their wrongdoings. this guy is obviously not sorry for any of it.

[TheRed]

14 minutes ago, frash.exe said:

the ken lucas incident was arguably the single biggest jerkass steve moment but even if you take it at face value and nothing more then it’s still a microcosm of steve making the panthers organization his bitch for almost 20 years. and he goes off on a public tirade when everyone was tired of his poo, basically disowns the panthers, plays as a raven for a few years, and now he decides he’s changed his mind and publicly announces he’s ok with the panthers now and if they wanna get on that jersey retiring thing and a statue as soon as possible? nah. 

To be clear I am fine with the jersey retiring, but a statue is excessive. I think that should be reserved only for players like Sam Mills.

[steven8989]

This should not even be a question and to the 15 people that have said no so far, you can

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4 hours ago, TheRed said:

To be clear I am fine with the jersey retiring, but a statue is excessive. I think that should be reserved only for players like Sam Mills.

at this point i think if the panthers are going to retire his jersey then they are going to build the statue. i honestly think that’s way too premature. his performance on the field is his most ringing endorsement right now but he has only recently re-associated himself with the franchise. a good start would be to help build morale within the organization, encourage young guys and offer mentoring where possible. it doesn’t have to be a full time gig. stop by here and there and talk to some of those guys and give valuable insights if it looks like they need some direction to help their development along, instead of dropping a soundbyte on WFNZ about how the panthers should consider drafting another WR.

[TheRed]

2 hours ago, frash.exe said:

at this point i think if the panthers are going to retire his jersey then they are going to build the statue. i honestly think that’s way too premature. his performance on the field is his most ringing endorsement right now but he is only recently re-associated himself with the franchise. a good start would be helping build morale within the organization, encouraging young guys and offering mentoring where possible. it doesn’t have to be a full time gig, stop by here and there and talk to some of those guys and give valuable insights if it looks like they need some direction to help their development along, instead of dropping a soundbyte on WFNZ about how the panthers should consider drafting another WR.

I can't really disagree with any of this.

We can actually see eye to eye sometimes.